[ SECRET POST #2521 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2521 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, OP!

If you're looking at Disney princesses that don't have much agency, Snow White or Aurora are much better picks. Aurora more so than Snow White, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

The fun thing about Sleeping Beauty is that the prince in it isn't much better. The whole story is just a big battle between the good fairies and Maleficent, and the prince and princess are just chess pieces.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup! Philip is useless - watch the show, and see the good fairies doing all the work for him.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, he's not useless. He was very brave to have fought a fucking dragon. And the fairies were not directly allowed to use magic to harm things, so they couldn't do battle without a champion.

Except apparently Merryweather to turn the crow into stone. Not sure how that works. Apparently she's part evil fairy.

[badass_tiger]

Aw, I think Snow White is okay. She took refuge with the dwarfs and in return she cooked and cleaned for them. She wasn't really thinking about her prince then. Even she did the best with horrible circumstances handed to her.

Sleeping Beauty doesn't really focus on the princess though. Like the anon above me said, it's really just a fairy battle with the royalty mixed up in there somewhere.

[(Anonymous)]

This - though, tbf, they* did have to change a lot to make it "safe" for little kids, and that meant cutting out the part where Sleeping Beauty did do stuff.

*from the Grimm version, so...probably the Victorians as opposed to Disney itself.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Snow White is okay, but I think she might be the most criticizable princess. She was, after all, the only one who was actually in dire need of rescue on multiple occasions (and one of those she was actually conscious for), and she...well, she was supposed to come across as so kind and naive that she couldn't help but trust that old hag, but now it comes across as a little stupid.

Not to say I have a problem with Snow White. I don't--just that there are criticisms to be made.

I think Aurora is a bit more defensible because, well...she doesn't do anything. Good or bad. She never realizes she's in danger (for obvious reasons that weren't because she was dumb), and otherwise her life is spent being a peasant and picking berries and shit. She longs for a companion because she's lonely (evidently the fairies never let her leave the forest). She's not in a bad situation like Snow White or Cinderella besides that.

[(Anonymous)]

Well to be fair, Snow WAS 14. Not exactly the most mature and worldly of ages even if you didn't spend all your life cloistered away as a servant. You could argue that she'd probably never received any real kindness from anyone before running away, so why would the ugly old woman with the apple whose only crime seemed to be that the animals didn't like her be suspicious?

[(Anonymous)]

The thing about Sleeping Beauty is that Aurora is really just a pawn in the story--NOT the main character. It's really about the fairies.

THAT said, she doesn't get enough credit. She learns in one day that her entire life is a lie and she's getting ripped apart from it to a lifestyle she's never known. And all she does is cry to herself once she gets to the castle. That had to be super hard on her.

[belacqua]

Yeah, I've always had trouble getting into Sleeping Beauty because "girl kept in the dark for her own good" is my least favorite trope, but I haate when people act like the problem was Aurora being "weak". She had every right to cry. Not every female character is going to respond to a situation like that by telling people off, and that's okay. Pitting the Disney princesses rather than the narratives against each other isn't helping anything.

/always ready to complain about this sorry

[(Anonymous)]

I'm always totally boggled by people bitching that Aurora cries after she finds out she's a princess. She's not even upset by that. She's upset that she found a companion (the first one she's had ever, apparently) and she was immediately told she couldn't ever see him again.

Also, I wouldn't say it's "girl kept in the dark for her own good". I think this happens to male characters almost as much, if not equally. In this case, I'd say the more common trope is "royal kept in the dark for own good".