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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-01 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2525 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2525 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Then don't play Ocarina of Time, because that's canon.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-12-01 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
According to a comment I saw on a Kotaku article, the "the hero dies" timeline comes from a fight that, in-game, is impossible to actually lose. I haven't played the game, so I'm not really sure what all that was about.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I've played it a few dozen times, and I'm coming up short on a fight that would fit that description. Maybe I can hunt down the article...
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2013-12-01 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I just played through it literally for the first time over the last month and change, and I don't remember a fight like that. Unless it was just one of the ones that was so easy I never came close to losing and thus never realized you weren't allowed to lose it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-03 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think they just mean the final boss. Canonically, there is a timeline that "splits" from the end of that game in the scenario that the hero loses the battle, and there are later games that take place in this timeline, too.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-12-02 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I was always under the impression that it was a possible canon but you never actually experience it, since dying at any point in-game just results in a "game over" screen and starting out from where you last saved/last dungeon you entered. You can imagine, though, that it's a possible ending - if, say, you lost the final fight against Ganon(dorf) and were unable to loose his hold on Hyrule.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-12-02 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
That was speculation. All Nintendo says is that during Ocarina of time, the hero was defeated.
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[personal profile] ryttu3k 2013-12-03 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Huh? I'm thinking that commentor didn't quite know what they were talking about, it comes from the final battle with Ganondorf.

(Source: Hyrule Historia.

•The Defeat of Link, the Hero of Time

The thief, Ganondorf, obtains the Triforce of Power and gets his hands on Princess Zelda. Link, the Hero of Time, challenges him for the destiny of Hyrule, but is defeated.

•The Seven Sages Seal Away the Demon King, Ganon

Finally, Ganondorf obtains the Triforce of Wisdom that dwells in Zelda and the Triforce of Courage that dwells in Link. Having obtained true power, he becomes the Demon King, Ganon. The Seven Sages of Hyrule, led by Princess Zelda, seal away the Demon King, Ganon, and the Triforce in the Sacred Realm as a last resort.


It has to be the fight with Ganondorf, since it mentions that he's already captured Zelda, but has yet to transform into Ganon.)

And it's definitely possible to get a game over in that. Granted, getting a game over then just results in having to restart, there's no cutscene that shows Link's death and Ganon taking his and Zelda's Triforce pieces, but it's certainly not impossible to lose. It's HARD to lose, especially if you have multiple healing fairies and potions, but not impossible.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Also MGS2Substance had a side story that basically said the same thing.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-12-01 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Video game characters have no soul or existence beyond the game, so even if they did fail, the program would continue to run in any reality.

Video game characters can never truly "die," no matter how many alternate realities you create.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-12-01 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Try Super Meat Boy then.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
You dick.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-12-02 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I'm just a ball of fun.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-01 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the same way with fanfic. Whenever I write something that feels IC, I start treating it as an alternate timeline... Though I never actually consider it "as canon as the canon itself", more like a sub-canon.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
In Bioshock Infinite, that's basically what happens.
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[personal profile] logicbutton 2013-12-02 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, me too. Reading Homestuck has done nothing to mitigate this.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I do something related. Sometimes when I kill an NPC and feel guilty about it, I imagine that every time I play I create an AU, and they got to live all the times my character was killed. It's embarrassing but it makes me feel less guilty about the mass slaughter.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
You know that's rather cute. I mean, unless you're literally afraid of an imaginary character dying because their imaginary mission could fail in an alternate universe.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-03 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Then there's always this possibility: http://www.dorkly.com/comic/42266/marios-horrible-secret
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[personal profile] rivia 2013-12-03 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
It's worse when I think of how I died. For example:

Commander Shepard was taken out on Horizon before they could have even fucking do anything because of those stupid fucking praetorians and the Illusive Man wondered why he even bothered to resurrect them in the first place.

Or every time in the first game I threw a grenade by accident and blew myself up.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, anon.

Secret 8 - Videogames

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2014-01-01 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
[Picture is an image where a person in a white suit is jumping from one tall building to the next. The camera is looking straight upwards from the ground.]

Whenever I die in a game, I fear I have created an alternate universe in which the character failed at their mission and died trying.