[ SECRET POST #2525 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2525 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

LOL @ you thinking BBC Sherlock is anywhere close to what ACD originally wrote.

It doesn't "defy" Doyle; it takes a massive shit and then uses that shit to make a sculpture that looks sort of like Doyle (or at least looks enough like Doyle to fool the idiots on tumblr).

BUT DOYLE'S MOUSTACHE PWNS ALL SHIT-SCULPTURE ATTEMPTS

[intrigueing]

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[(Anonymous)]

Holy fuckballs. It has a life of its own.

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[iceyred]

I know, right? It looks ready to fly off his face into the sunset.

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[dreemyweird]

I LOVE THIS THREAD

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[dreemyweird]

yeah my sister and I used to joke that, while all the respectable writers turn in their graves, Doyle just jerks his moustache. Or it falls off every time somebody does something stupid with his characters.

but then we also thought that Tolstoy and Dostoevsky could jerk their beards and that Pushkin could flap his sidewhiskers and then it got out of control

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[(Anonymous)]

Everything about this comment is beautiful.

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[iceyred]

This is a great comment. For some reason, reading about all those beards made me think of Civil War Generals.

Every time a high school student procrastinates on a history essay, General Lee pets his beard and narrows his eyes.

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[(Anonymous)]

ok, somebody seriously needs to make an animated gif of this.

I wish I had the skills, but alas.

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[(Anonymous)]

It suddenly occurs to me that in pictures when he's older, Arthur Conan Doyle looks disturbingly similar to Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry but...can you elaborate on what parts of ACD canon BBC Sherlock takes a massive shit on? (I assume you don't mean just the modern setting).

I'm a very casual fan whose only seen the show once and I'd be really interested in a more in-depth perspective from a real fan, since I didn't notice anything that I could peg as being rage-inducing.

[dreemyweird]

Irene Adler. The entire character of Irene Adler is rage-inducing. That she's enamoured with Holmes (and vice versa) is an inexplicably popular fanon, but it has little to do with the actual Scandal in Bohemia, where Watson specifically says that Holmes had no romantic feelings for her, just deep respect. Furthermore, in the canon she marries a Godfrey Norton, whom she is clearly in love with.

ACD!Irene is a very self-respecting, smart, mature woman full of confidence and dignity. She voluntarily chooses to marry and lead a quiet family life, because for her, life is interesting and meaningful in its smallest, day-to-day manifestations. Like canon Holmes, she's the type of person to see small wonders all around her, in nature, in human character, in human fate. BBC!Irene is... well. An adrenaline junkie who works as a dominatrix, is in love with Sherlock, and does stupid crap instead of being dignified. I cannot imagine ACD!Irene doing anything akin to recording her sexy moan on Sherlock's phone.

[intrigueing]

This little piece of...fic-ish meta? Meta-ish fic? explains my cold-fish reaction to BCC Sherlock better than a long essay full of examples ever could:

http://magnetic-pole.dreamwidth.org/10039.html

[(Anonymous)]

Oooohh. Interesting.

[funyarinpainahat]

As the person above me said, BBC basically looked at Irene Adler, saw a strong, confident woman in charge of her own life, and thought they could convey the same message by making her overtly sexual and taking away all of the other qualities that made her a strong character.

[sarillia]

In addition to the Irene Adler thing, I really hate how they turned Sherlock into another House-type character who is allowed to get away with being an asshole because he's just so damn smart. I'm so sick of that type. There's some room for argument but I don't see the original Holmes that way.

[(Anonymous)]

The big difference is that the original Holmes doesn't think he can get away with being an asshole because he's smart -- when he is an asshole, he usually either doesn't realize he's being an asshole or he's just responding to assholishness (especially upper-class assholishness) on the other side. And most of the rest of the time, he makes an effort to stop himself from being an asshole (or just plain doesn't have any asshole impulses) because he knows that alienating people won't help him. Holmes' assholery is much less constant than Sherlock's. It comes in sudden bursts and in response to stimuli.

He does have SOME of that attitude, especially with Scotland Yard, in the original stories, but that's the original stories. Back then, being better than the police wasn't the same kind of trope it has become nowadays, and so it wasn't nearly as tired-out and overdone then as it is now.