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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-01 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2525 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2525 ⌋

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(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
That's really not how white privilege works. Having white privilege doesn't mean people think you've got class privilege or any other kind, or that you don't have bad days. It just means that, being white, you've benefitted from stuff at the expense of other people, or just, like, not had to think about things that other people have to struggle with daily.

It's quite similar, really*, that everyone from a middle class background and higher doesn't ever have to think about what it's *really* like to be poor, or they take things for granted that are not part of your reality, ever (a good example of this would be the other day, I was stressing about juggling money to make bill payments, and a friend suggested I just ask my parents for the money. LOL no, they're poor too).

* This doesn't mean all privilege always functions exactly the same, but it's a good 101 version of what "privilege" generally means.
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(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-12-02 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'd cite Maslow's heierchy.

If your homeless and white in America the advantages of your white privilege mean fucking shit because you are hungry and seriously worried about surviving the winter cold and possibly managing your addiction.

(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but absolutely. Sure. I agree. There's lots of ways you can be fucked over and screwed and in an awful position. But it's still something that we can talk about on a broad scale, something that's meaningful in a systemic sense.

(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'd argue we still have the advantages, they just mean *less*, lol. Like, okay, as a single mom who is broke as shit, I sometimes get some general slut-shaming and some well-meaning money "advice" like "why don't you [insert option that is not actually an option]". But most of the time, people assume I was married and am now divorced, not that I was never married. They assume the state of poverty is just the economy, etc. (which it is, but most people of color don't get this). Etc. etc.

And all this stuff can, actually, translate to resources. I get noticeably better help at the Dept of Labor and the DFCS office. I have worked a lot of shitty, low wage jobs, but I sincerely doubt I've ever *not* been hired for being white (while I have watched an employer toss out applications after black applicants left, and a friend of mine was explicitly told to toss out resumes herself). So being homeless is terrible no matter what, but I still don't think it wipes out the benefits of white privilege.

(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
And if that homeless white person ever manages to shower at the gym, wash their clothes with spare change, and then pass through a nice store, the cashier will still call the cops on the black guy who actually demonstrates he has money to spend (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/barneys-accused-stealing-black-teen-article-1.1493101). Because you don't lose race privilege by being poor.

(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
And again, So I don't give two fucks about feeling 'guilty' for something I had zero part in, mmkay.

Life is far too short to waste on things outside of your own control. I'm not 1)rich 2)male or 3)middleclass. No ones care what I have to say, and I can't do jack about what people put into place that have no connection to me other than skin color. I have much, much more important things to be worrying about now like not ending up homeless or keeping my job. I'm not going to spend my time worrying about how ~evil~ I am because I'm white. Nope.

(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Nobody said you had to feel guilty. What a useless emotion. The point is to be aware of it so you can do your part to not perpetuate it. It's reaaaally not that hard. Sort of like how it would be awesome if more people were aware that poverty fucking sucks and would stop assuming the worst about people with low income and contributing to all the ugly narratives about how being poor is the same thing as being lazy or stupid. Or, hey, the least they could do would be to not tell you to shut up for "trying to make them feel guilty" or whatever. Maybe they could just shut up, themselves, and let you be frustrated, and maybe even learn something from what you have to say. Like, that would be super cool, and it would actually improve not only your life (and mine), personally, but society at large.

Or, you know, everyone could just keep on giving zero fucks and change nothing. That's an option, too.

(frozen comment) Re: LISTEN TO ME WHITE PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2013-12-02 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
That's what i'm going to do tbh. Not giving a fuck