[ SECRET POST #2527 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #361.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/EETpcUc.png

[(Anonymous)]

damn right it's a shame

*goes to store to buy comics*

*realizes op didn't name comics*

uh

[(Anonymous)]

Just bring it the picture, I'm sure your local comic book expert can identify it by panel alone.

[kamino_neko]

I think that's actually fan-art, since it's not in the actual artist (John Romita jr)'s style. (But I don't know if another artist has taken over since I last looked at the comics.)

However, any comic shop person worth their salt should be able to recognize Kick-Ass and Hit Girl from the designs.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's Kickass? There's a guy in green spandex and a girl in purple with a black bob in the picture and that looks like what I've seen on those Kickass 2 previews lately.

(haven't seen the movie or read the comics so I'm probably wrong)

[insanenoodlyguy]

Well, in Kick Ass' case, some people probably preferred the less rapey version.

[feotakahari]

I've heard it argued that the movie is best understood as a counterargument to the cynicism the comics embraced. I haven't read the comic, so I'm not sure if that's true. (I gave up on Ellis after that comic about the superhero who's secretly an infiltrator sent to gruesomely murder superheroes.)

[kamino_neko]

The comic's by Mark Millar, not Warren Ellis. (And I suspect you're thinking of Garth Ennis, in any case.)

[likeadeuce]

Hah ha I think you're right. Though Ellis might have written something like that too.

[feotakahari]

I checked, and the comic I was thinking of was by Ellis, so it's unrelated to this secret. Oops? (Though I'm not that interested in trying out Millar after what I've heard about Wanted.)

[likeadeuce]

Which one?

Spoiler warning, I guess?

[feotakahari]

I wanted to avoid saying the title since I gave away the twist, but whatever. It's called No Hero, and I didn't feel like there was any point to or meaning in the increasingly gruesome violence. I thought it was going to make a point about how messed up violent vigilantism is, but it didn't really offer anything in its place.

Re: Spoiler warning, I guess?

[likeadeuce]

Ahh, gotcha! I missed that one but it sounds like the kind of thing he was doing a lot of for a while, so I'm not surprised (it kind of sounded like 'The Boys' at first, so I guess that's why someone thought you meant Ennis.)

[(Anonymous)]

I would definitely agree with that assessment, but then again it might just be the movies seem lighthearted in comparison.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I finished 2 but I don't think I would ever reread it. Too uncomfortable. :(

[elaminator]

This is partially the reason I've never read the comic; I thought about it at some point after the first film, but I heard vague spoilers that changed my mind. Still haven't seen the second film but I love Hit-Girl so I will eventually; I was glad to hear they had toned a few things down for it.

[(Anonymous)]

Kick ass is my guilty pleasure - Everything about it is so BAD but I can't stop reading. Specially since they introduced Rocco, it's like the dialogue gets x2 worse when he's mentioned.

[kamino_neko]

With a handful of exceptions (The costumes looking nothing like anything that might have been homemade, or David's stupid 'pretend to be gay to get close to the girl he's got a crush on' thing working, for instance), the movie is actually superior to the comics, though. (At least the first one...I don't know how the second one could be worse than the respective comics, but I haven't seen it, so I don't know.)

The logic flows better, the ridiculousness plays better (because it doesn't present itself as Oh So Realistic)...

[thezmage]

The two things from the comic that I really wish they had kept in the first one were that Dave pretending to be gay (or allowing her to continue thinking he was gay) and Big Daddy's lie.

As for the second movie, first of all his girlfriend breaks up with him almost immediately (thankfully) and instead of massacring a bunch of kids and raping Dave's ex, they kill cops and MF is too flaccid to rape Nightbitch. It's played as comedy, but at least it's toned down.

[(Anonymous)]

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But Dave did pretend to be gay in the first movie? It turned out a hell of a lot better than it did in the comics, though, so maybe that's what you meant.

[thezmage]

Yeah, I left out a word there. I was referring to it working

[kamino_neko]

It's played as comedy, but at least it's toned down.

Well, I'm glad to hear that. Even if it's still rather over the top, it's not near so...insanely so.

I vacillate a bit on the Big Daddy thing.

On the one hand, his lie worked within the story...on the other the 'haha, take that you stupid geeks' aspect is hard to ignore (and I'm of the opinion that reading that into the last page of Wanted is a real stretch).

I tend to like it because, independent of either of those points, it at least gives Hit Girl a chance at a normal life (not that she ended up having one) in the end.

[cloud_riven]

I'd almost agree with you if the Kick-Ass comics weren't so shit. That and John Romita Jr's art is so weird especially when he's drawing kids and teens or their faces. Eurgh.

Honestly, the first movie is the only thing worth watching regarding that series (the second movie, imo, missed the point of the first, style and narrative-wise).

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe if the comic fandom weren't so whiny and judgmental towards the movies (and this goes for ANY comic that has ever had a movie) the fans who came in through the movie would feel more comfortable approaching the comics.

Secret 4 - Kickass (comic book)

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is a scan from the comic "Kickass". There are two adolescent people in costume sitting at a small table with orange drinks (juice?) with straws between them. The first of them has light skin, long dark hair pulled back in a ponytail, a purple eye mask, a purple jumpsuit, purple gloves and a dark blue cape and boots. (I think she is a girl?) She is holding a handgun beneath the table, aiming it at the other person, and looking bored out of her mind. The other person, a young adolescent boy? Has light skin, short light blond hair, a green jumpsuit with yellow lines and yellow gloves. His noise looks wounded and he has a large band-aid over it. He is laughing and talking excitedly, making a jokingly "gun" hand gesture at the girl.]

I love these comics so much and it saddens me that everyone waits for a movie to come out and then only focuses on it. The comics deserve more love and it's kinda painful that it's in its final story arc, and no one seems excited for what's happening other than me. The comic side of the fandom is lonely...