[ SECRET POST #2527 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think what bothers me more is that the hero/es with their superior strength, speed, or wealth don't use those attributes to immediately help recovery. Or at least, are rarely addressed as having done so or planning to.

It's been nearly a month since I've seen Thor 2 and I'm still mad Tony Stark and/or SHIELD didn't provide Selvig, Thor's girlfriend's beloved mentor, with the finest mental healthcare money can buy.

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't!

I'm appalled.

No, wait, don't tell me. I might go see the movie later.

[(Anonymous)]

Considering all the people in MCU who would really benefit from some good mental healthcare and apparently have not received any, I'm beginning to wonder if it exists in that universe. :/

[(Anonymous)]

Tony Stark hasn't even provided himself with the finest mental health care money can buy; what makes you think he's in any sort of position to offer it to anyone else?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because how Tony takes care of himself is an indication of his resources.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because money is the only relevant kind of "resource," and struggling with his own post-Avengers trauma may not have put him in the best frame of mind to go chasing down friends-of-friends-of-friends to see if they needed something that is a difficult and touchy subject (due to the societal stigma surrounding mental health) at the best of times.

[(Anonymous)]

OP didn't say Tony himself should go counsel this guy, they just pointed out that the Avengers are never shown using their resources to help people with the aftermath.

[(Anonymous)]

Very little of the aftermath is shown, full-stop. That's no indication.

Besides, I wasn't suggesting that Tony go counsel the guy himself; I'm not sure where you got that.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably the part where you talked about him personally chasing down a friend of a friend to ask after his needs. And in the very little of the aftermath shown there is no sign of them helping out. True, it doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it also doesn't mean it did. Superheroes in general have a history of showing up for the fight and then leaving other people to pick up the pieces.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably the part where you talked about him personally chasing down a friend of a friend to ask after his needs.

How exactly was he supposed to get Selvig mental health treatment without asking him if he wanted or needed it?

Superheroes in general have a history of showing up for the fight and then leaving other people to pick up the pieces.

Do you want to talk about "superheroes in general," or the Avengers in particular? These are different.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the OP's post was a general "the Avengers don't help with collateral damage" using Selvig as a specific example of how they failed and Tony/SHIELD as proof that yes, they do have the resources to do this. Not saying that Tony personally should set people up with therapy or be out on construction sites rebuilding New York. The Avengers and SHIELD have the ability to provide for these people and are not shown doing so. Bringing up "superheroes in general" is to show that there is a trend of superheroes doing this, so in the absence of on screen evidence that the Avengers are helping out, the likelihood is that they are not.

[diet_poison]

Very little of the aftermath is shown, full-stop. That's no indication.

This.

[nyxelestia]

Uh, considering all the medication he had with him before getting institutionalized, it would seem that somebody got him some help of some sort.

It seems most likely that Selvig did have some help, but was trying to live on his own and reclaim his own agency after having it ripped away in one of the most invasive ways possible, and he kind of just...failed. Spectacularly so.

[dazzledfirestar]

This. Exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

how on earth is paying for selvig's mental health tony's responsibility?

[(Anonymous)]

Screw that! I'm still upset that SHIELD or at least Captain America didn't try to call Tony to see if he was ok after his fuckin' house was destroyed by the Mandarin.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you! the mandarin attacked and not even received a call of: "how are you, Tony?". And he's not even Selvig friend only knew that Erik was controlled and that Tony is a millionaire and a hero does NOT mean that he's responsible for every person.

[(Anonymous)]

I get blaming SHIELD, since it was the research he was doing at their behest that got Selvig brainwashed in the first place and they'd reasonably have an obligation to him. Tony, though? He has no direct connection to Selvig, and it really isn't reasonable to blame him for not providing mental healthcare to some guy he scarcely met when there are other people who both have an obligation to him and might actually have the resources to find someone who has half a clue about how to handle the fallout of being mind controlled.

Though really, if we're flinging around blame for Selvig's mental state, shouldn't we be blaming Odin for not putting some Asgardian healers on the case? Loki being ultimately his responsibility and all.

[arcadiaego]

He had a *lot* of medication - it's possible that he was given high quality help and then simply ignored it.