[ SECRET POST #2529 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2529 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Babylon 5, Art by A-gnosis]


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03.
[HGTV]


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04.
[Boy Meets World]


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05.
[Doctor Who, "Day of the Doctor"]


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06.
[Battlestar Galactica]


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07.
[Brian Cox, Jim Al-Khalili]


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08.
[Doctor Who]


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09.
[Top Gun]


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10.
[Once Upon a Time in Wonderland]














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 017 secrets from Secret Submission Post #361.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 2 - posted twice ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i41.tinypic.com/2vx3z1v.jpg
[Babylon 5, Art by A-gnosis]

[sabotabby]

This secret made me smile.

(Prehensile dicks! Six of them!)

Secret 2 - Babylon 5

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is a drawing of Londo Mollari and G'Kar from the TV series "Babylon 5". They're both fairly humanoid looking, with Londo having a sort of receding hairline and dark hair that is fanned upwards and defying gravity, and a very elegant coat jacket, and G'Kar has a mottled skin with no hair and some sort of ridges. He is also wearing a coat of sorts, but his looks tougher. They're standing almost back to back and glaring at each other out of the corner of their eyes. The secret maker has credited the art to "A-gnosis".]

I swore I'd have one show where I didn't get obsessed with shipping.

Well damn.

Bonus secret: The fact that Londo apparently has tentacles makes this especially super hot.

[philstar22]

I love them, but I'm also into any/all combinations of Sheridan/Delenn/Sinclair as well as both Ivanova/Talia and Ivanova/Marcus. So nope, not a show I don't ship in. But I love this show, so this secret makes me really happy.

[pts]

Ha ha, awesome.

[sootyowl]

I've only seen the beginning eps for this show. I liked them. I'd love to see them all one day.

[philstar22]

The show in seasons 2-5 is very different from season 1. There are some hints of what comes later towards the end of season 1, but there is a complete shift in tone in season 2. It actually gets a lot better, though.

[sootyowl]

Thanks for the info. I like the whole political vibe the episodes I watched had. The show is definitely on my "to watch" list.

[philstar22]

There is definitely plenty of political stuff later on, it just gets a whole lot darker. And there is an overarching plot that stretches through seasons 2-4. The creator planned most of the show out from the beginning.

[sootyowl]

I love darkness in shows and overarching plots (Farscape is one of my favs for that reason). Sounds like my kinda thing!

[rivia]

All those little interesting threads from s1 get woven into a crazy intricate wonderful storyline. B5 is my favourite example of why a tv show needs forethought to stand up for 5 seasons. Even if the cancelled-not-cancelled thing screwed that up a bit.

[sootyowl]

I heard that s4 wraps everything up, so s5 has some problems. Still, the show sounds great.

[rivia]

Yeah, there was news that S4 was the last season so the original plans for two seasons were condensed into one, and it does really show, even though it's still pretty good. s5 has good and bad points, though there's some stuff that is objectively awful and some new characters who you either hate/love, but at the very least watch the last episode, 'sleeping in light', which is the series finale filmed during s4 that was pushed back when the show got renewed.

[sootyowl]

If I get all the way to s4, I'll watch 5 for sure. I would hate to stop a show right before it ended.

What a shame, but at least people got another season and closure. I'm sure I'll enjoy it :)

[(Anonymous)]

I shipped Mollari with at least four people (Urza, G'Kar, Timov, Adira) and contemplated a lot more. Even aside from the canon Centauri polyamory, never was there a man whose love was more designed to be spread in small doses over many people. Too intense and expansive by far for anything else, and much too likely to end in tragedy.

Good Lord, I loved that character. The Narn-Centauri arc was the part of the show I was most devoted to. Mostly because it was grand operatic tragedy at its finest, and because the Londo-G'Kar relationship was savage in so many ways.

Ah. Which is to say, shipping Narn/Centauri in no way detracts from the experience of the show. At all.

[philstar22]

The Adira thing was too contrived for me. But I totally shipped him with G'Kar and Timov (and could totally get behind him with Urza). I'm not usually one for hate-sex ships, but for some reason with Londo its the only thing that seems to work for me.

Although, actually, I'm more of a G'Kar fan than a Londo fan. Don't ship G'Kar with anyone besides Londo and maybe Lyta. But I loved his character and journey the best out of everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Possibly it's because with Londo, given that all his relationships end in war and tragedy anyway, at least with enemy ships you can still get a lot of visceral satisfaction out of it? The thing he had with G'Kar was intense, and the thing with Timov so fantastically biting, and him and Urza was something straight out of a Regency novel in a lot of ways. The Adira relationship was weaker, more his idea of her than a relationship, but I still count it because Londo gets obsessed about these things and it's hard to discount the depth of feeling he had about it.

I'm not sure which of them I'd choose, between Londo and G'Kar. Probably Londo, because the messiah parts of G'Kar's arc were a bit uneasy for me, although the ... the leader of his people, that hit me so hard in places. The scene in the elevator with Vir, the drops of blood. The scene in the elevator with Londo, and taking his enemy with him the only way he can. And that fucking scene after Cartagia where the other Narn asks him what he sacrificed, I still have so much trouble watching that sometimes.

That whole arc, the Narn-Centauri war. Between Londo and G'Kar and Vir, it's the arc that catches me most. Londo's expression at the bombardment. Vir's challenge towards Morden. The changing meaning of the death-dream as Londo and G'Kar's relationship changes. That bloody drink they almost shared before it broke, and then the ones they shared later. Vir and everything he becomes.

Some of the best television I've ever watched, I swear.

[philstar22]

I only got into it a couple of years ago, and I've already watched it through 5 times. On my 5th rewatch now. I'd totally call it my favorite television series ever. There is just so much good stuff there. Awesome characters, great one-off plots and great overarching plot, plus just a lot of deep stuff there. I love it all.

I think what I find interesting about G'Kar is that he was always a strong character, but his strength in the beginning was a weapon. He was hard because he had to be and then he didn't know how to be anything different. But you see his journey, and his ultimate core doesn't change, but he becomes, like, the best version of himself.

Londo kind of has the same journey, it just takes him longer. But I guess I find G'Kar's journey with all that he suffered slightly more interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

I think what I find interesting about G'Kar is that he was always a strong character, but his strength in the beginning was a weapon. He was hard because he had to be and then he didn't know how to be anything different. But you see his journey, and his ultimate core doesn't change, but he becomes, like, the best version of himself.

Yes, that. He left ... a lot of the bitterness go, over the arc of the show. Got mostly pain in its place, which almost makes it stronger, really. I think it's part of the reason that scene after Cartagia hits me so hard. Because he fought there by trusting Londo, he fought by giving the Centauri what they wanted, if only briefly, he fought by sacrificing his personal honour and letting the enemy see his weakness, and none of that would have been possible for him as the Narn we saw in Season 1, none of that was something he could even have imagined, and it worked but holy gods did he pay for it. And then that other Narn walked up, exactly as G'Kar would have done a couple of years before, and asked him that fucking question. What did he sacrifice.

Everything. Or at least everything that he'd have thought mattered, once upon a time.

So, yeah, G'Kar has a truly stunning arc, and one that sort of rips your heart out along the way. Vir has a similar one, actually. And Londo. Him and Londo sort of propelled each other along. Chopping bits off each other along the way. The death dream was such a wonderful emblem of that. The different things it meant at various stages of their relationship, and the thing it finally came to mean in reality.

I think, in the end, G'Kar might be the character I admire more, while Londo is the character I enjoy more? And they are both at their simultaneous best and worse when in each other's company, I think.

[philstar22]

I think there is a big theme on the show in general of sacrifice and that sometimes you have to suffer in order to do the right thing. Everyone on the show gets it somewhat bittersweet because there are good times, but they all go through a lot of horrible stuff on the way and mostly knew the cost of what they were doing but knew it was the right thing to do. Its like, you know Londo is on the wrong path because things are going well for him. And then when he does the right thing, his life eventually sucks, but he knew he was doing the right thing.

[dragonimp]

Yeah, well, the show kinda wrote that ship for us, anyway...