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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-08 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2532 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2532 ⌋

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Re: Ethnicity in America

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically the story of America and ethnicity is a constant and progressive broadening of what "white" means and what "ethnic" means as each successive wave of immigrants becomes integrated into society. When the Irish and the Italians were foreign, strange, different, they were 'ethnic' - brutish Celts and fiery Latins, not good Germanic white people.

In 20 or 40 years, Hispanic people will be considered more or less white - maybe not white, maybe the terminology will change, but I think the distinctions we currently make where Hispanics are 'ethnic' where Irish and Italians aren't, that's going to disappear for Hispanics, because the process of integration is going to be the same as it always has been. I mean, you already see people saying things about how "Asians basically count as white."

But as you point out, as much as the integration process does take hold, there are also always still traces of the old situation - people don't entirely forget, and history is always going to influence us. It just gets... submerged, and less important. The new system is overlaid on the traces of the old system. And I guess that's going to be especially true in more old-fashioned, rural places.

(African Americans are unfortunately the exception to these general considerations, for a variety of historical and political reasons)

Re: Ethnicity in America

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

It should be noted that a lot of this applies to Canada too. But no one likes to talk about that because it's easier to stick your fingers in your ears and say "LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, CANADA IS A PERFECT UTOPIA WITH NO PROBLEMS AND I AM GOING TO MOVE THERE NEXT TIME MY COUNTRY'S GOVERNMENT DOES SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE."

Re: Ethnicity in America

(Anonymous) 2013-12-09 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm both American and Canadian, and people are ridiculous if they believe that those problems don't exist in Canada.
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Re: Ethnicity in America

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-12-08 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
(African Americans are unfortunately the exception to these general considerations, for a variety of historical and political reasons)

Haha, don't I know it.