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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-10 08:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2534 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2534 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Guild Wars 2]


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[Perry Mason]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic; gorefic]


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[Marco Mengoni/Max Pezzali (883)]


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[Hetalia]


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[Elementary]


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[Rise of the Guardians. Art by Rufftoon.]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
A 6-year-old was suspended from school in Canon City, Colo., after kissing a girl on her hand. School officials said the smooch was sexual harassment, KRDO reports.

Hunter Yelton reportedly had a crush on a female classmate. So he planted a smooch on her hand as a way to show his affection. A smooth move, no doubt. Unfortunately for Hunter, the school didn't agree. The kiss was seen as a kind of harassment. Hunter was sent to the principal's office and suspended.

Hunter's mom Jenny Saunders told KRDO that the subject of Hunter's affection was OK with the kiss. Other kids told the music teacher about the sneaky smooch.

Saunders told KRDO:

"That was the day I had the meeting with the principal, where she first said 'sexual harassment'. This is taking it to an extreme that doesn't need to be met with a six-year-old. Now my son is asking questions… what is sex, Mommy? That should not ever be said, sex. Not in a sentence with a six-year-old."

Both mother and son told KRDO that Hunter isn't exactly an easy kid to have in class. He's been suspended before for "roughhousing" and for kissing the same first-grader on her cheek.

KRDO reports that the school district is sticking to its stance. The superintended told the station that Hunter's kiss fits the district's definition of sexual harassment.

His mom isn't happy that her 6-year-old now has that mark on his record.

"How can you do this? How can you say this about my child?" she said. "Remove sexual harassment, remove it from his record. I'm going to stand up and fight for him because that's not the case, that's not what happened at all."

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, his mom says the other kid was okay with it. I'm sure she's totally unbiased.

I don't think six-year-olds should be indelibly labeled as sexual harassers, but I don't think his behavior was okay, either. He clearly had been told not to kiss the kid. It's possible that she didn't have a problem with it and her parents really did, but obviously someone was not okay with it.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-12-11 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I highly doubt she was ok with it, though it's possible the teacher just made an executive decision after seeing the behavior. But given circumstances it sounds like she wasn't and maybe her parent got involved? idk.

I agree that it was not appropriate and he needs to be given a serious talking-to about personal boundaries. But yeah, it was not sexual harassment.

(I really wish they would interview the girl, and maybe her parents, so we can get all sides of the story)
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-12-11 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I wouldn't call that sexual harrassment either, but I don't think that kid is as naive as the mom thinks, and maybe she should think about what she's allowing him to watch that he gets the idea that sneakily kissing girls is something a 6-year-old should be doing.
Edited 2013-12-11 03:08 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think the determining factor in how this should be handled is really how the little girl in question felt about it all. The boy's mother claims she was consenting; is this true? If so, an innocent kiss between six-year-olds isn't anything the school needs to concern itself over, as long as it's not interfering with the classroom or the lesson. It's not like they're groping each other in the lavatory. However, if the girl wasn't consenting, then that's a harassment problem (though I'm not sure "sexual harassment" is the right label, given the ages and levels of awareness of what "sex" is, on the kids' parts) and the school was right to take some disciplinary action, and probably to separate the children by transferring the boy to a different class. But without knowing one way or the other, I can't say which is the case here. The complaint didn't come from the girl or her parents; other children in the class told on the boy.

Little kids have "boyfriends" and "girlfriends," and that's normal - it doesn't mean the same thing to them as when kids who have entered puberty use those words.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, meant to reply to the original thread. I am fail!anon.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
See that sounds to me like the mother is raising a future rapist. These lines need to be drawn early "Oh it's ok to do this thing even if the girl isn't ok with it, but she probably IS ok with it, so why not?" this mindset develops and leads to some awful abusve adults.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2013-12-11 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
......no. Just no.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-12-12 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yes though? I wouldn't say he's "probably going to be a rapist" since we really don't know that, but the mother IS teaching him that it's okay to invade another person's (specifically, a female person's) body and personal space without her consent. (That is, assuming she didn't consent, which seems to be the most logical conclusion based on the information we have. I really wish they'd interviewed her because whether it's harassment really depends on her point of view instead of everyone defining it for her.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus christ, a 6 years old...? A kiss on THE HAND? I live in an European country and nothing even close to this has ever happened or will ever happen. I didn't even think it was even possible in any parallel universe of possibilities.

I don't want to generalize and go, 'what's wrong with you american people when it comes to such matters' because I hate that but I would be tempted now.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
it's adorable how when something happens one time in another country, people choose to think it's a regular occurrence there. do whatever you need to do to forget your country's own mistakes, hun.