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Comments

First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/first-grade-boy-suspended-for--sexual-harassment-171045972.html

I don't think what he did should be considered sexual, but I was talking with someone about it and they agreed with the school. What do you think? I feel really bad for the kid, since that's going to be on his record.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

I think that is so fucking stupid. No way the kid should have been suspended.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, zero tolerance, we meet again...

For those who don't want to bother to click the link:

[(Anonymous)]

A 6-year-old was suspended from school in Canon City, Colo., after kissing a girl on her hand. School officials said the smooch was sexual harassment, KRDO reports.

Hunter Yelton reportedly had a crush on a female classmate. So he planted a smooch on her hand as a way to show his affection. A smooth move, no doubt. Unfortunately for Hunter, the school didn't agree. The kiss was seen as a kind of harassment. Hunter was sent to the principal's office and suspended.

Hunter's mom Jenny Saunders told KRDO that the subject of Hunter's affection was OK with the kiss. Other kids told the music teacher about the sneaky smooch.

Saunders told KRDO:

"That was the day I had the meeting with the principal, where she first said 'sexual harassment'. This is taking it to an extreme that doesn't need to be met with a six-year-old. Now my son is asking questions… what is sex, Mommy? That should not ever be said, sex. Not in a sentence with a six-year-old."

Both mother and son told KRDO that Hunter isn't exactly an easy kid to have in class. He's been suspended before for "roughhousing" and for kissing the same first-grader on her cheek.

KRDO reports that the school district is sticking to its stance. The superintended told the station that Hunter's kiss fits the district's definition of sexual harassment.

His mom isn't happy that her 6-year-old now has that mark on his record.

"How can you do this? How can you say this about my child?" she said. "Remove sexual harassment, remove it from his record. I'm going to stand up and fight for him because that's not the case, that's not what happened at all."

Re: For those who don't want to bother to click the link:

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, his mom says the other kid was okay with it. I'm sure she's totally unbiased.

I don't think six-year-olds should be indelibly labeled as sexual harassers, but I don't think his behavior was okay, either. He clearly had been told not to kiss the kid. It's possible that she didn't have a problem with it and her parents really did, but obviously someone was not okay with it.

Re: For those who don't want to bother to click the link:

[dancing_clown]

Yeah, I wouldn't call that sexual harrassment either, but I don't think that kid is as naive as the mom thinks, and maybe she should think about what she's allowing him to watch that he gets the idea that sneakily kissing girls is something a 6-year-old should be doing.

Re: For those who don't want to bother to click the link:

[(Anonymous)]

I think the determining factor in how this should be handled is really how the little girl in question felt about it all. The boy's mother claims she was consenting; is this true? If so, an innocent kiss between six-year-olds isn't anything the school needs to concern itself over, as long as it's not interfering with the classroom or the lesson. It's not like they're groping each other in the lavatory. However, if the girl wasn't consenting, then that's a harassment problem (though I'm not sure "sexual harassment" is the right label, given the ages and levels of awareness of what "sex" is, on the kids' parts) and the school was right to take some disciplinary action, and probably to separate the children by transferring the boy to a different class. But without knowing one way or the other, I can't say which is the case here. The complaint didn't come from the girl or her parents; other children in the class told on the boy.

Little kids have "boyfriends" and "girlfriends," and that's normal - it doesn't mean the same thing to them as when kids who have entered puberty use those words.

Re: For those who don't want to bother to click the link:

[(Anonymous)]

See that sounds to me like the mother is raising a future rapist. These lines need to be drawn early "Oh it's ok to do this thing even if the girl isn't ok with it, but she probably IS ok with it, so why not?" this mindset develops and leads to some awful abusve adults.

Re: For those who don't want to bother to click the link:

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus christ, a 6 years old...? A kiss on THE HAND? I live in an European country and nothing even close to this has ever happened or will ever happen. I didn't even think it was even possible in any parallel universe of possibilities.

I don't want to generalize and go, 'what's wrong with you american people when it comes to such matters' because I hate that but I would be tempted now.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, what?

Seriously, if the kid had done anything more than that, then yeah, I'd understand. But... this is insane. It was a KISS ON THE HAND. A really sweet and innocent gesture.

Meanwhile, actual sex offenders get away with legitimately bad shit every day and nobody cares. But a six year old can't kiss his friend on the hand.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[diet_poison]

Meanwhile, actual sex offenders get away with legitimately bad shit every day and nobody cares.

MTE. And look at how well schools handle bullying, whether or not it's sexual in nature.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[ariakas]

Wooooooooooooooow.

It's hardly new to this generation, though. 20-some-odd years ago my neighbours caught my then 5-year-old brother playing doctor with their seven-year-old daughter, immediately called the cops, and wanted him charged with sexual assault.

(Needless to say that didn't fly, but fucking christ, people.)

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

wow, wish the authorities would pay this much attention to actual victims of sexual harassmant and rape

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

*harassment

(I can totally spell)

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

Sad that it seems this kid is never going to get an actual talk about sex or respecting bodies or responsible behavior, from what the mother sounds like. It should have just been something that they brought up and talked about (the old 'we don't touch others' bodies without permission' talk), but now it's all blown out of proportion.

And honestly I'm of the school of thought that it's never too early to be discussion sexual and body education. Different terms and styles and topics for different ages, sure, but the "sex should never be talked about with a child" motto his mom has is not something I agree with at all.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[diet_poison]

That's another thing that really stuck out to me. You shouldn't talk about sex with a six-year-old? Really? That's damn well old enough to me. That's about how old I was when my mom decided I was old enough to get the real answer to "where do babies come from?".

He definitely needs to get that talk. This isn't sexual harassment, but it doesn't bode well if he's allowed to believe it's perfectly ok, either.

Here's another article

[(Anonymous)]

http://fox4kc.com/2013/12/10/colorado-boy-kisses-girl-he-likes-gets-sexual-harassment-added-to-file/

(CNN) — Hunter Yelton is an energetic first-grader who has a passion for science and P.E., but it’s his love of a classmate that now has him labeled as a “sexual harasser.”
Hunter’s mother, Jennifer Saunders, told CNN affiliate KRDO the Canon City, Colorado, 6-year-old has a crush on a girl in his class. Hunter told KRDO he kissed the student on the hand during reading group. That landed him a two-day suspension from school and an entry of sexual harassment in his school file.
Robin Gooldy, the superintendent of Canon City Schools, told HLN Tuesday that students aren’t labeled sexual harassers after the first innocent grade-school kiss, but if unwelcome contact or touching continues, it will be noted in the student’s file.
Hunter and his mom admit this isn’t the first time Hunter has kissed his classmate. He’s been suspended before for kissing the same student on the cheek, but Saunders insists the two are “boyfriend and girlfriend” and that the attention isn’t unwelcome. Saunders is outraged that her son has been labeled a “sexual harasser,” a label that will stay in his file as long as he is in the Canon City school district.
“How can you do this? How can you say this about my child? Remove sexual harassment, remove it from his record. I’m going to stand up and fight for him because that’s not the case, that’s not what happened at all,” Saunders told KRDO.
But Gooldy said there are two sides to every story. “Our main interest in this is having the behavior stop because the story is not just about the student that was disciplined, it is also about the student receiving the unwanted advances. We have to think about both students in the situation.”
Gooldy told HLN that Hunter’s record won’t follow him to other school districts, and the discipline will stop as soon as the kissing does.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[diet_poison]

Given the fact that he has kissed her on the cheek before and gotten in trouble, I'd say he needs a talking-to about personal boundaries and appropriate behavior. But he's fucking SIX, he's repeating what he's seen adults to with no understanding of the implications, and calling it sexual harassment is absolutely preposterous, so I agree with you, anon. That sort of thing shouldn't be on his record because it can follow him and bite him on the ass but it was in no way indicative of a propensity for sexual harassment which may or may not come later. How stupid.

Schools always seem to be making extreme decisions like this :/ that, and ignoring the stuff that goes on that actually is a big deal

ETA: While I still don't think the label of sexual harassment is appropriate, I no longer find it as big a deal as the mom's behavior after reading that other article (and learning that it's not a permanent record). holy shit, lady.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

He kept touching someone he'd been told to leave alone. All this seems totally over the top, but I think the girl's family might be telling a very different version of the story.

And the district says the record won't follow him to other districts... although I guess it will now, being in the news.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

Please tell me I'm not the only person in this thread who doesn't think 6-yr-olds should know what sex is.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

boring shitstirring

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[making_excuses]

It is a 6 year old! Seriously, a six year old can't sexually harass another kid*. Not saying the child did something okay and the child should like any other child be taught what is and isn't right, and what you can and can't do to another person.

Also how on earth did that lead to a suspension? I have had kids in my class fight each other without getting suspended, I can't actually think of anyone I know of that has ever been suspended. Oh wait! Those kids that beat up this one boy for standing up to them, I think they got suspended for a while.

Which reminds me that when I was like 4 and in kindergarden me and a boy went into the bathroom to look at each other private parts... Nothing sexual about that either, just curiosity.

*The world is a fucked up place, there is probably damaged children around who could do it. But they wouldn't be aware of it being sexual harassment.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

(Reposting this in the correct place this time. x_x)

I think the determining factor in how this should be handled is really how the little girl in question felt about it all. The boy's mother claims she was consenting; is this true? If so, an innocent kiss between six-year-olds isn't anything the school needs to concern itself over, as long as it's not interfering with the classroom or the lesson. It's not like they're groping each other in the lavatory. However, if the girl wasn't consenting, then that's a harassment problem (though I'm not sure "sexual harassment" is the right label, given the ages and levels of awareness of what "sex" is, on the kids' parts) and the school was right to take some disciplinary action, and probably to separate the children by transferring the boy to a different class. But without knowing one way or the other, I can't say which is the case here. The complaint didn't come from the girl or her parents; other children in the class told on the boy.

Little kids have "boyfriends" and "girlfriends," and that's normal - it doesn't mean the same thing to them as when kids who have entered puberty use those words.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[(Anonymous)]

I have no problem with this. I mean it, Is it extreme? Yes, but it's a very positive step in the right direction.
I mean think about it, would you rather see a thousand innocent boys labelled as dangerous sexual predators than to have one dangerous sexual predators labelled as an innocent boy? Think of it in terms of the victims.

Re: First grader suspended for 'Sexual Harassment"

[tei]

This is so fucking stupid. Not only is the kid not a sex offender, for obvious reasons, but what is this teaching him about sex? If he's never been introduced to sex before, now all he knows about it is that sex is something hurts people and gets him in trouble in school. Which is exactly the kind of shitty attitudes that turn people into actual sex offenders. And his mother sounds like she isn't helping, either-- she's right to fight for it to be erased from his record, but not talking to him about sex, when he's being suspended from school for harassment? Really?