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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-10 08:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2534 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2534 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Doctor Who]


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[Guild Wars 2]


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[Perry Mason]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic; gorefic]


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[Marco Mengoni/Max Pezzali (883)]


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[Hetalia]


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[Once Upon a Time and Uncanny X-Men]


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[Borderlands 2]


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[Elementary]


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[Rise of the Guardians. Art by Rufftoon.]


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[Mabinogi]


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[minecraft/C418]


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[The Big Bang Theory]








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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm conflicted about her addition. I don't think adding a woman for the sake of adding a woman is good, and I don't think The Hobbit has to automatically be criticized just for not having women. But if there is a possibly appropriate appendix/silmarillion/whatever female character that would help make the movie more interesting? I'm not a purist, as long as the essence of the story is the same. She just seems so token and Mary Sue.

I know, it's not fair to call her a Mary Sue, but... awesome elven warrior woman in a love story who was created for PJ's fanfic retelling... skeptical. And all the commercials make her look pretty cardboard so far.

that being said, I really am hoping to love her.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Have you read the Silmarillion? It would make no sense to have any of the female characters there appear in the Hobbit films, because those events took place Ages before, and whatever female characters were still alive at the end of the Silmarillion left Middle Earth or were Galadriel. This mostly applies to the supplementary materials as well.

A female character I would like to see appear in these films is actually Thorin's sister, mother of the twins. But I'm fine with Tauriel, she seems like a logical choice for this part of the trilogy, since we're going to spend a bit of time in Mirkwood. There were a couple of nameless male Elven characters there in the book, and admittedly none of them did anything cool or badass, but you can still imagine that Tauriel is a genderflipped version of one or even all of them combined.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I did read it (albeit a long time ago), and I know it's the history and mythology of the world. I just meant, since I'm not a purist, I wouldn't care if a character from there were to appear. Well, not "wouldn't care" entirely, I just think it'd be better to use an existing character than an OC, if she could add to the plot somehow.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
That would create storytelling problems though, because any existing character would be involved in their own narrative entirely separate from the plot of the Hobbit. In order to have Galadriel (and Saruman) in these films, they had to expand the Necromancer plotline, and jury's not even out on whether that's a good thing. But at least that was something tangentially relevant to the events of the Hobbit. An OC like Tauriel is more easily interwoven into the ongoing narrative; a canonical character would feel shoehorned since anyone who knows who they are would be baffled by their presence, and anyone who doesn't would just see them as an OC anyway.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
In addition to what the above anon said, iirc PJ's not allowed by the Tolkien estate to use stuff from the Silmarillion in The Hobbit, so that wouldn't have been an option to begin with.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I would love to see Thorin's sister (Dis) or any female Dwarf character.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, when they introduce a host of new Dwarven characters in the third movie and Dis or at least any female Dwarf doesn't appear, I will flip shit.
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[personal profile] type_wild 2013-12-12 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
There were a couple of nameless male Elven characters there in the book, and admittedly none of them did anything cool or badass, but you can still imagine that Tauriel is a genderflipped version of one or even all of them combined.

It's good that I saw the film before this comment, because if not I'd be so, so disappointed not to see Tauriel as the prison guard getting drunk off her tits in the wine cellar.
Edited 2013-12-12 23:23 (UTC)