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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-12 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2536 ]


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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-12-13 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
But there are words like has, was, twas, heck even peas. I know more words that end in -as with the AZ sound than with a ASS sound.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-13 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
But there are exceptions, like gas. Because the word it comes from uses a soft "s" sound. Hence Cas.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-13 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe, but the point is there are words with "as" that use both pronunciations. So its not out of the question that a word could be pronounced either way. And none that I can think of that pronounce it "az" that are nicknames. And it does not seem a good reason to randomly add an extra S to a nickname of a name that only has one S. Especially when similar nicknames exist like Lis that only use one S.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-13 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree. Obviously there are exceptions, there are exceptions to almost every rule in English. But the majority of everyday words with an -as that doesn't have another consonant afterward are pronounced with a z sound. Maybe other points in history this wasn't true, but anymore people will be more familiar with a z pronunciation. "Lis" might be different because of the 'i', and maybe that feels arbitrary to some people, but I don't think it's illogical or unusual for the vowel preceding the consonant to change its sound. There are some obvious examples of -is with a z sound ('is', 'his') but there aren't as many. That makes a difference in how people will read the word. If I saw 'Lis' I would probably read it as 'liss'. The reading I've done has trained me to read the sound in that way.

I mean, since people reading fanfiction would presumably be familiar with the character and how his name is pronounced, there's no reason it should have to be Cass in this context. But if I saw the name 'Cas' written somewhere else, unrelated to Supernatural, I would assume it was pronounced with a z sound. That's why some writers have the impulse to write it in (to their opinion) a phonetic way.
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-12-13 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
The way pronunciation "rules" work aren't just about similar words are spelled - it's also about the category of word it is. Has, was, and 'twas are all function words. Peas is a pluralized form of a word and it ends with /z/ because the sound that precedes the final sound is voiced.

But when you look at the words that are the same type of word as Cas - singular nouns, or more specifically, nicknames - if it ends with "s" it's most likely pronounced /s/.