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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-14 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2538 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand your weird dichotomous use of the word "but".

It's perfectly possible to both be unreasonable and selfish and to be like that because you were treated like crap. Reacting selfishly doesn't mean the crap-treating is okay, nor does being treated like crap make it okay to be selfish.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand the problem you have with OPs use of "but"? Care to elaborate?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

She says "everyone else thinks X" BUT "I think Y", as though the two opinions are opposing opinions that are mutually exclusive. Which they aren't.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I cringed when everyone was making plans for going to Vegas and she's staring at her bank account. I've been there. Where your well off friends don't even consider that what think as mad money is what your need in order to pay your bills. You can't just drop a few hundred like it's nothing. It doesn't matter if you really want to.

The fact that her best friend didn't say anything about it while they were on their way to Vegas really hurt. Yes, the bride to be didn't vote for Vegas but when she found out, she should have said something.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2013-12-14 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that scene stuck out to me as well, for the same reasons. Really, the whole movie left me depressed. Everyone spent the whole movie treating the main character as though she was beneath notice at best, and while she sometimes brought it on herself with her own jerky behavior, she really didn't deserve half of the shit she got from her supposed friends and was much more forgiving of them in the end than they ever were towards her.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-15 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man, that scene made me cringe so hard because I've been in that situation before. It sucks when your friends want to go and do expensive things and they know you can't afford it, but don't seem to care (or worse, act like you're the biggest wet blanket for not being able to afford the same things as them).

Same goes for the bridesmaid dress scene where they all go to the most expensive store and buy the most expensive dress, and Annie can't afford it. Yet none of them seem to care about her opinions or ideas. Tbh, if I were her I would have just pulled out of the wedding. Fuck being seen as selfish. My bank account is more important than the wedding of a so-called "best friend" who doesn't seem to care about my feelings or financial situation. :/

(Anonymous) 2013-12-16 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't invited to my friend's 30th birthday celebration in Las Vegas because I didn't have money.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I really dislike this film OP. I don't think it's funny at all, it's puerile and all the characters are incredibly unlikeable. I do think the main woman is a nightmare, she is unreasonable, she is selfish. However everyone around her is just as irritating and they do treat her badly.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-15 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
mte, thank you. I did not enjoy this film at all, I cringed through the whole thing, but apparently all of my friends really enjoyed it, and I ????.

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Secret 2 - Bridesmaids (film)

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-12-14 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is Annie, as portrayed by the actress Kristen Wiig, from the film "Bridesmaids". She is an elegantly dressed woman smiling kind of questioningly as she clutches the skirt of a pastel-pink dress on exhibition.]

I didn't find Bridesmaids funny. I found it really sad and depressing.

We're supposed to see her as unreasonable and selfish (and, if forums are anything to go by, most people who watched it did) but I thought everyone in the film treated her like crap and her attitude was completely justified as a result of it. I relate to that so much. [sad face emoticon]

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I assumed the audience was supposed to feel both ways towards the character? A balance of sympathetic plus recognizing she's an asshole. Totally possible to be both. Kind of like most humans are.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought that was the point, and part of the reason the movie is considered good and did well commercially.
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[personal profile] littlestbirds 2013-12-14 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I laughed so hard during the movie and I liked the main character. She was dealing with some terrible stuff in less than ideal ways. I found that easy to relate to I guess, and dark humour appeals to me. If the humour doesn't work for you, or if it hits too close to home, I can definitely see why you wouldn't like it.

Right there with you, OP!

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally overrated movie. I too related to the main character -- broke, struggling, bad relationships, well off friends, being in the middle of wedding stuff while dealing with lots of not so fun stuff -- and then the movie mocks her.

I would have LOVED for one moment for Wiig's character to have snapped and yelled "You're getting married. You're not curing cancer, or shacking up with the Prince of England -- your wedding cannot be my life."

Sorry for the rant. But yes, OP, I agree. Let's hit up happy hour and bitch about men :)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this movie, and I think Annie was a great character. Bad shit happened to her, but she handled most of it badly, and the movie made her take responsibility for herself rather than be a victim.

Sometimes, I did feel for her - like the Vegas thing, when at least her best friend must know how she's struggling with money. But overall, Annie wasn't a horrible person either, and I don't know why some found her totally unlikable. She was just... realistic, imo.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-12-14 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched for ten minutes and then started skipping ahead, hoping to get to the 'hilarious' parts. Never happened. Horrible fucking movie filled with horrible people.
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I thought we were supposed to be sympathetic for her?

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-15 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
In the, "yes, she's kind of a jerk, but not out of malice, she's just dealing with a lot of shit in her life and everyone else is stomping all over her and ignoring her struggles and that's why she's an asshole" kind of way.

Were we supposed to see her as unreasonable? That's not the impression I got. I thought that we were supposed to see her as a little on the mean side now and then, but with good reason to be, and that we were supposed to see the rest of the characters as the unreasonable ones. o.O

Re: I thought we were supposed to be sympathetic for her?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-15 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i don't think we were meant to see her as unreasonable. though the vast majority of people i've discussed the movie with seem to see her that way, which is unfortunate.
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Re: I thought we were supposed to be sympathetic for her?

[personal profile] logicbutton 2013-12-15 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I thought so too? Until I read this secret, it never even occurred to me that any reasonable person would interpret her in any other way.

Re: I thought we were supposed to be sympathetic for her?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-15 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same. I thought it was actually a pretty good send-up of what it feels like to be floundering while your friend's getting married. I've been there (not to the extremes of unemployment vs. super-well-off friends, but still), and I completely recognize the way she was acting.

It made the movie uncomfortable at times, but I thought it made it more real, too.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-15 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
She was petty and selfish and being treated like crap. Sympathetic characters don't have to be perfect paragon of virtues.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-12-15 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I have an almost violent dislike of everything in that movie. It was an asshole with atrocious misfortune actively striving to make everything in her life worse. There's only so much I can stand of watching a character hit themselves in the skull with a hammer while complaining about what a bad headache they have.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-15 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
i enjoyed it because i could relate to it. to me, it's one of those movies where sometimes you're laughing really hard and sometimes you're crying.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-17 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
She was a selfish pain in the ass.