[ SECRET POST #2539 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2539 ⌋

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Comments

[kaijinscendre]

Yeah...no shit. Contrary to what most of Tumblr believes, Disney movies are for children. So they add these childish, easily marketable side characters (this snowman, Meeko, horse/chameleon from Tangled, that dragon from Mulan, etc) for children.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. The difference being that in this specific case the snowman was more jarring and out of place tonally with the rest of the film than your average Disney sidekick.

[kaijinscendre]

Really? How so?

[(Anonymous)]

Tangled for example was a more light hearted, comedic film so the iguana and horse were in line with the rest of the film. 'Frozen', while kid-oriented, had a more serious storyline so the comic relief was more jarring. It'd be like adding a talking dog to 'The Iron Giant'.

[kaijinscendre]

Really? More out of place than the dragon in mulan?

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people hated that talking dragon.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say the talking dragon was far worse actually.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Eddie Murphy tends to be a downer in everything anymore. I don't know what's wrong with him.

And yet I still like him as Donkey in Shrek. Go figure.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Probably because Donkey is such a positive, easy-to-please character, not Mr Grumpypants. It helps.

[(Anonymous)]

So, what's your thought on the three talking gargoyles from The Hunchback of Notre Dame and the Rosie O'Donnell ape from Tarzan? Or BEN from Treasure Planet?

If anything, Olaf felt MORE in place tonally than a good number of Disney's comic relief sidekicks.

[(Anonymous)]

Haven't seen Treasure Planet and with Tarzan the whole plot is about a guy living with apes, so of course they'd be talking in a Disney film.

Gargoyles in Hunchback? Yeah, they were out of place. That being said I can understand their presence to a degree just because of how dark the film would be without them, whereas with Frozen I think kids would still like it without Olaf.

[(Anonymous)]

The gargoyles are the worst sidekick in any movie. Some of them you mentioned were just kind of annoying and had some good moments and some bad moments (mostly good with Terk, mostly bad with Mushu), but the gargoyles? They took a movie that could have been a goddamn masterpiece and destroyed it.

Shit, I might have been able to tolerate them if they had stayed with the 'Quasimodo hallucinates/pretends they are real because he's desperately lonely' angle (something that would have flew over kid's heads, but made the characters salvageable for adults), but they HAD to point out they were real.

[(Anonymous)]

HoND would have been a whole lot better without the gargoyle voiced by Jason Alexander. The other two were okay.

[(Anonymous)]

...How is Olaf out of place? He saves Anna's life by starting a fire and pulling her out of the room Hans locked her in. He tells her how obvious it was that Kristoff had feelings for her, AND he was far more serious than say Meeko and flit or Mushu.

The only joke-joke he made was about being impaled. Not exactly a cute joke, in my opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

So... thoughts on the random matchmaking trolls and the guy who has both sides of conversations with his reindeer? Or were those not comedic enough for you?

[(Anonymous)]

Less so than the snowman making butt jokes, yes.