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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-16 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2540 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2540 ⌋

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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-12-17 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think Matt's a talented actor, but the writing for Eleven was SO bad. I guess I'll never know if I would have loved him under a different writer.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-17 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Saaaaaaaaaaame. I honestly think it rivals what they did to Colin Baker. Only that time, it was intentional. This time....IDK, man, I'm no kind of tinfoil-hat-wearer, but I had serious flashbacks to the '80s with how bad it was for Eleven.

I'm thinking, even with a smidge more plot, and jot more pacing (as in, slower, not breakneck), it could have been watchable. As it was, it was just all over a hot mess. At least it was popular, and Smith won't have to be disappointed, the way Colin Baker was? I am trying to find the good in this sitch, really I am.

The fact Moffat has basically retconned the whole canon (and has likely already forgotten he's done so) just highlights the fact that someone needs to sit him down, force-feed him enough tranquilizers to get him to sit still for longer than ten seconds (and to get his clearly ADHD brain to focus), marathon all but the last season of Babylon Five for him (except Sleeping in Light, that absolutely must be watched), then say to him, "YOU SEE?? THIS! THIS! THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE SCIENCE FICTION."

(Anonymous) 2013-12-17 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Six was kinda endearing. I heard that he has nice books and audio, so maybe 11 would too.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-12-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. I think Matt's fine and I might have liked him, but I couldn't do Eleven's writing.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-17 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. It was hard to watch at times, the writing was atrocious.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-12-17 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like he never actually learned how to write anything but action. Plot is so much more than one event after the other. And don't even get me started on his "if all else fails, throw in a plot twist." Because no, that just means that people will stop trusting anything they see, and look at M. Night Shyamalan. He does plot twists about 100 times better and my bowel movements stink less than his career.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-18 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
RTD has written Eleven in the Sarah Jane Adventures (ie not Moffat overseeing scripts). Can't really recall it though except that I thought the episode really enjoyable...

I haven't enjoyed Moffat's writing much either, and it frustrates me no end. It's like cleverness which distances the viewer, for me. I did really enjoy Day of the Doctor, probably the most enjoyable for me of his era. I can't really warm to Eleven like some of the others though I still think he's a good Doctor. The butt slapping and comments about skirts and women and so forth, even though a small component, grossed me out a bit (in a way that Six didn't), and I can't help seeing Eleven as Moffat's avatar, and similarities to Sherlock. (And I used to be a Moffat fan, adored Press Gang, sigh.)