[ SECRET POST #2541 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2541 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I think Frozen edges them out because the driving force of the story is all about the relationship between two women. In Lilo and Stitch, the relationship between Lilo and Nani, while beautiful and well-done, isn't the vehicle which drives the plot, it's about Stitch learning to be a good person. In Mulan, her motivations are to do with male characters, specifically her father and perhaps Shang and the Emperor.

I adore both of those movies, and definitely think they're feminist, but... Frozen did the female representation and agency thing a little better.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Mulan is still my favorite Disney movie/character and I have to agree with you anon.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen Frozen yet (want to!) but I don't think it's not-feminist that Mulan acted for male characters. I mean, she fought through obstacles to save her father and win a sense of accomplishment for herself. I think it's kind of picking it apart to say her motivation should've been, say, her mother. Or that she can't fall in love or want to serve the Emperor. She says right in the movie that she did it more for just herself, she joined the army because... I forget the exact quote, but because she wanted to, and she was clearly doing the warrior thing for herself the moment after she didn't accept being kicked out of the army early on.

Anyway, I get the arguments about the importance of more than one female character moving the plot along, I totally do. I just have trouble with ranking Mulan as less feminist than Frozen (which I haven't seen) because her motivations for being awesome aren't good enough.