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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-17 07:02 pm

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Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-18 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I tell people all the time that I generally don't dream (or, seeing as it is apparently neurologically possible to sleep without dreaming, I don't remember my dreams). At most, I get an image, emotion, or sensation upon waking, but these are extremely mild and do not always happen (I'd say about a third of the time).

I dream (or remember my dream, as the case may be) and handful of times a year. By virtue of the fact they are so rare, they all tend to unsettle me a wee bit just because I'm not used to them. How most of humanity vividly hallucinates every night and still functions, I don't think I will ever know. Otherwise, I haven't noticed any problems caused my the lack of dreaming. I don't have any chronic sleep issues, and I can't think of any kind of neurological symptom/issue that doesn't have a much clearer source.

However, I do occasionally get curious (and then forget to look it up), but is "not dreaming" a condition/problem/symptom of a problem? I've had some people express concern when I mention this to them, though none of them in any kind of professional capacity/opinion so I never gave it much weight. I kind of see this as an advantage, actually, as it means I don't get nightmares, and I don't get those dreams that are so good I feel depressed upon waking back up in the real world (...are these really a thing?).

Is there any weight to people's concern, or is it just really weird, or have the people I mentioned this to before just overreacted a bit and it's perfectly fine and possibly even normal?

Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-18 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't dream much either. Probably less than five a year and they're really fuzzy.

I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-12-18 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
This describes me to a tee. I rarely remember my dreams and when I do I always feel like I've slept terribly. Not a huge fan of dreaming.

Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2013-12-18 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone dreams. As a neurology type, I'd be extremely skeptical about any case where someone claimed to never dream. Dreams are by-products of the activity our brains engage in while we are sleeping, and a lot of that activity is in the medial region of your temporal lobe which happens to be very close to the parts of your brain that store prototypical images and some memories for sounds as well.

What's more likely is you just don't remember dreaming when you wake up. That's exceedingly common. The reality is you're probably dreaming every night but you just don't know it.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] tei 2013-12-18 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I've been reading a bit about lucid dreaming and problem-solving during sleep, and basically it seems like dreaming can be highly influenced by what you're thinking while you're awake. So, if you've never recorded your dreams, don't consider dreaming an important part of your evening, and don't expect to remember your dreams when you wake up, then I think it's probably perfectly normal not to. Dreams are basically exactly the same as daytime thoughts, except with different parts of the brain more or less active (for instance the part of the brain that exercises logic is far less active, which makes sense given how weird dreams often are) and they will happen whether or not you remember them, so I doubt you're missing out on anything.

I've read that you can increase the about you remember about your dreams and even exert some control over them by writing down what you want to dream about right before you go to sleep and recording anything you remember as soon as you wake up, and people have also taught themselves to lucid dream. Personally I rarely remember my dreams but if I try to remember them and write them down as soon as I wake up, after a few days I'll start remembering more and more often. I don't see what the point of doing that would be for you if you like it the way it is now, though.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-12-18 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, but I'd say it's more likely that you do dream and just don't remember your dreams most of the time, especially if you wake up with an alarm clock and even more so if you wake with an alarm clock and habitually hit snooze.

I've also heard that oftentimes, people who keep a dream diary and record their vague impressions the moment they wake up will quickly start to remember more and more details of their dreams more and more clearly for longer and longer periods.

Now obviously, my immediate response was to say "NOT DREAMING MEANS YOU WILL GO INSANE AND MURDER THE REST OF YOUR CREW AND CRASH THE ENTERPRISE INTO A GRAVITY WELL," but that's just how it goes when all your sci-fi is twenty years old, I guess... :D

Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-18 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in the same boat - almost never remember my dreams. And I'm perfectly normal (ahahahaha) no really

Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-18 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
I have never dreamed (or remembered a dream) in my life. I have never had a nightmare, no matter how scared I was going to bed. If science says I dream anyway, fine, but you couldn't prove that by my experience. I sleep fine and feel perfectly normal, and I'm actually glad I don't dream. I'm very creative as is. I know my dad was utterly baffled when I told him I had never had (or remembered) a dream. He dreams all the time. I don't think my mom remembers her dreams as often but she has them too. I just don't.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-18 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
In a really round about way, I kind of feel sorry for people who dream. Like, it seems like a lose-lose situation - either you get a nightmare and wake up terrified, or you get a good dream and wake up to be disappointed by the real world. Anything else is...hallucinating vividly every goddamn night. Yikes.

Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-18 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say I feel sorry, since I have no idea what dreaming is actually like. But, I definitely wouldn't want dreams if nightmares came with them. And I get really irritated by people who either refuse to believe me when I say I don't dream (or have never remembered one -- I'm so fucking sick that I have to make that distinction every time I talk about this or someone will jump on me) or they look on my with pity. I'm seriously fine with how things are.

/rant, sorry.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-18 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it's okay, I totally get the frustration. Rant away.

I have remembered a few dreams, but the thing is for me they aren't really good or bad. Because dreams are so rare for me, whenever I do remember them, they freak me the fuck out no matter what they are about. HOW DO PEOPLE DO THIS EVERY NIGHT?!

That said, I can, at least up to a certain degree, sympathize with needing to explain to someone that no, really, I just don't dream (/don't remember them). How? Easy, I go to sleep, I wake up, there isn't really anything in between. Please put that dream interpretation book/dictionary down.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-12-18 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Actually no. While you're right that nightmares are bad and occasionally a dream may lead to disappointment upon waking, "hallucinating vividly every night" is lovely for people who are accustomed to it. It's frequently epically entertaining and hilarious (since dreams are usually nonsensical) and often brings wonderful images, connections, ideas and feelings that are sometimes remembered for a long, long time. I guess it just takes some getting used to.

Don't feel sorry for us unless we ask you to, please. Especially when you yourself admitted that you don't know what it's like for us because you almost never dream. I know you didn't mean it that way, and it's unintentional, but this comment still comes off as really condescending.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-18 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, whoops. I meant it more of a joking manner, but yeah, tone can't come across in type in all that noise. So sorry about that. No hard feelings? :)
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-12-18 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really dream either, and when I do I am always aware of the fact that I am dreaming and have some control of it... heck last time I dreamt I went back and fixed a thing because it wasn't logical to do it the way I did first.

I guess not thinking in pictures and in extention not dreaming in pictures either both of those things are alien and just seems annoying to me...

Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-18 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Everybody dreams, but you're obviously not remembering them, which maybe means that you have a really good set sleep schedule?

I have a pretty erratic schedule; I should be sleeping right now, in fact, instead of fooling around on the Internet. :) I occasionally remember my dreams, but I think it's when my alarm has wakened me at a specific point in my sleep cycle. As in, I'm more likely to remember them if I'm wakened, versus if I sleep in until I naturally wake up.
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-18 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. My sleep schedule is extremely erratic in that a.) I have to be up at different times on different days and b.) I'm one of those self-induced insomniacs who always has something to do so I tend to just ignore things like "bedtime". And I usually wake up to an alarm.

Yay for fooling around on the Internet!
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Re: Does anyone else not dream? (Loosely inspired by #7)

[personal profile] lynx 2013-12-18 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's perfectly normal to not remember dreams. Happens when you wake up in between sleep cycles instead of in the middle of the REM phase.

Depending on a lot of factors, I go through periods in which I can't remember anything, and others in which I remember every crazy detail with my five senses. Back when I used to keep a dream journal, I was better at lucid dreaming too. But that last thing is something you (most of the time, there are people that are naturally better at it) have to train for.