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⌈ Secret Post #2545 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Is he meant to be beautiful? I mean, separate from how audiences react to him and the fact that Elves are generally considered beautiful, in this part of the story Thranduil is a villain of sorts, so maybe he's only supposed to come across as fey, otherworldly, and mildly unsettling. Which he does to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think we have much info about his looks from the books (as much as I recall), but the elves should look more ethereal than humans in general I think. This way he sort of looks like a bad dye jobs IMO, it doesn't look natural and that sort of irks me.

I wish they had gone with black for once... Arwen looked way better than everyone because that was her colors, no stupid lenses and no stupid fake hair. (Elrond still looked terrible to me, but that's because of his face and his quirky eyebrows, lol).

[(Anonymous)]

Well, the humans in PJ's Middle Earth all look very natural (and often covered in dirt), so Thranduil's unnatural appearance may be playing into that.

oh btw i was the op

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, you think that they could be playing the contrast on purpose? It can be I guess, even because almost ALL the elves have that going on, even the ones we see just barely.

Eh, then I suppose I'm just not a fan of that look, I'll have to suck it up.

Re: oh btw i was the op

[(Anonymous)]

Well actually not JUST the Elves: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp4e3RS911qfti5wo1_500.jpg

But see, this is my point. You just don't notice it as much with the humans because their styling is so earthy. They're not all spotless and glowing like the Elves.

[(Anonymous)]

The Elvenking had "golden hair".

The movie seems to be assuming all Sindar have white-blond, though.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't much agree on this point? I seem to remember Legolas NEVER got a precise descriptor for his hair. At some point there are referrals to him being lighted by the moon or something like that, but no precise adjective for his coloring. Like, never.

I remember, I think I've read those books 10 times by now.

I think the light coloring was more specifically referred to the other elves? Now I'm not sure about that.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, Legolas's hair is never described, and Tolkien mentioned that (generally speaking and with obvious exceptions) only Vanyar (ie the ones we barely see at all in Middle-earth) were light-haired, and Noldor and Sindar were mostly dark-haired.

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[(Anonymous)]

Actually, unless he went into detail in one of the histories I haven't read (always possible), Teleri hair wasn't really covered. Vanyar were golden-haired, Noldor were mostly dark-haired, but Teleri? We know some of them have silver hair and some of them have dark hair. That's it.

I'm actually in favor of a lot of Teleri having bland blond (not golden) hair which is recessive to everything, so their noble families can keep throwing out that recessive-to-dark silver hair without excessive inbreeding.

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[(Anonymous)]

There is a mention about the Teleri royal family having silver hair, and I doubt that would have been underlined as something unusual if all the Teleri had that hair color. So presumably the Teleri were usually dark-haired.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure about Teleri who did go to Valinor specifically, but in HoME 11 Tolkien does mention that "In general the Sindar appea to have very closely resembled the Exiles, being dark-haired, strong and tall, but lithe. Indeed they could hardly be told aparrt except by their eyes (...)".

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[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Ah, thank you! I did not know that.

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[(Anonymous)]

They're elves. They don't have genetics.

(in my headcanon at least)

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[(Anonymous)]

IIRC, Legolas's hair was never mentioned, but there was one line in The Hobbit describing the Elvenking as golden-haired.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think he's supposed to be beautiful as much as otherworldly (and I think they captured that as well as they can without doing weird CGI morphs to human actors' faces).