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fandomsecrets2013-12-22 03:41 pm
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Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)It's a combination of things. Up on a pedestal, hopes too high, getting to know the actors and creators better and not liking what they learn, the show itself going downhill or in a direction fans don't like, generally upset by bullshit decisions. As for why so drastically, well the love was sudden and drastic so I'm not surprised the dislike is as well.
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)...wait...isn't this one of the major things that SJWs complain about people doing?
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)OK I googled that "rape joke" (didn't get that from the thread yesterday, I just looked up the Lucy Liu one yesterday). The "rape joke thing" strikes me as the exact same OTT ridiculous satirical w/e schtick that the fandom used to cream themselves over, whenever he opened his mouth.
I mean...He's talking about hobbits and elves....do people not get how OTT ridiculous that is to begin with? I mean, if it's not your humour (it's not mine, personally), then w/e. But it's clearly stand-up/comedy schtick, and that's what the fandom used to love him for...now it's "problematic" and SJWs are hating on him forever etc. etc.? Really?
"the show itself going downhill or in a direction fans don't like"
This was me. This was also why I bailed on the whole thing, fandom, show, etc. Life is way too short.
" As for why so drastically, well the love was sudden and drastic so I'm not surprised the dislike is as well."
Maybe. But I've seen other things that got sudden and drastic love, that didn't deteriorate into this level of absolute hate and vitriol when something happened. Is this honestly the way all fandom is going? That's my worry. I mean, what do you think this is going to do, to people who actually write this stuff? They'll end up churning out heavily-sanitized, overly-PC garbage, for fear of not upsetting the mighty SJWs.....That's horrifying, tbph.
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)No, I get that it's not funny (I even said it's not my type of humour). And yeah I'm on the outside looking in so probably don't have any right to comment on it, and maybe it just looks like it's gone from lurrrrrrve to hate overnight to me because I've missed a lot of the drama in between.
The thing is, if these people have trouble with a rape joke about hobbits and elves, wouldn't their heads explode if they listened to something like ten minutes of Bill Hicks or someone similar? That's what I don't get. I do think the whole SJW thing in a broader context is only leading to bad things, and this is only one example of it.
It's not what the guy said that nonplusses me (though I didn't think it was funny, personally) it's everyone's reactions, that he somehow doesn't have the right to say it, even though it's stupid, un-PC and over the line for some people. That's what I'm concerned about, in a broader context, not just BBC Sherlock, that's just an immediately convenient example.
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)Believe me these peoples don't watch or listen to anything outside of their tumblr echo chamber.
And meh I didn't think the joke was that funny. Not because it was a rape joke but because it just wasn't funny.
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-23 12:02 am (UTC)(link)Yeah, I'm with you, it was kind of stupid, which isn't my kind of humour, so I didn't find it funny. Could be you're right, tumblr is an echo chamber of SJWism, but I'm seeing a lot of this stuff seeping over into other forums (like here, with the commenters above, and in the thread yesterday), and even in RL, the last which really gives me the creeping horrors.
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)
(Anonymous) 2013-12-22 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)The other thing that puzzles me is, three years ago, the fandom would have been dying with laughter over a rapey hobbit elf joke out of Freeman's mouth. So it was OK then but it's not OK now and that's what puzzles me, if it is the exact same fans.
Re: Can someone explain this to me? (BBC Sherlock)