[ SECRET POST #2549 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2549 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Perry Mason]


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03.
[Johnny Weir / Thor fandom]


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04.
[Swedish Chef/Gordon Ramsay]


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05.
[Hannibal]


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06.
[Big Bang Theory]


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07.
[The Lion King]


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08.
[Billy Madison / Happy Gilmore]


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09.
[Caitlin Moran, Sherlock]


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10.
[Tales of Vesperia]















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 021 secrets from Secret Submission Post #363.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I do like her, I do think she's as good a feminist voice as we can hope for in mainstream media, and I think what she did was idiotic. But from what I've heard, it doesn't sound to me like she was out to mock fanfic/ridicule fangirls/hate on slash.

[(Anonymous)]

Then you haven't been listening properly. And Moran has always been a relentlessly self-promoting, white/cis/middle class only "feminist" and we can and should hope for better, much better.

[(Anonymous)]

Because white cis middle class women do not face gender-based discrimination.

Moran grew up with both parents on the dole.

[(Anonymous)]

And only their issues matter, and about anyone else she "literally does not give a shit". Got it, Caitlin.

And so fucking what? That makes her an instant expert on deprivation? Carry on stanning her all you like, but bind devotion is just that: blind.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it is problematic that most every important ideology ever, feminism included, is dominated by the voices of those already privileged through their social (racial, sexual, economic) background.

I think that it is extremely important that marginalised voices are heard in the mainstream.

I think we need a media environment that lets these voices be heard.

However, I don't think that anyone's voice should be disregarded and reviled because they belong to a privileged group and are concerned with the ways that they see discrimination happening in their life. Moreover, I find it really off-putting how much time feminists online spend on tearing into others for being too privileged to know what they are talking about. I'm not denying that Caitlin Moran has said and done stupid shit, but I do think that she is a valuable voice in the public.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, so she lost your Oppression!Olympics? Baaaaaww moar, little SJW.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

she literally said she doesn't give a shit about the struggles non-white women face. that's shitty by any decent person's standards.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Wait, no. She said she didn't give a shit about the representation of women of color in her show iirc.

[elephantinegrace]

Let's not forget how she routinely uses words like "tranny." And how she calls women "virgins" to insult them. It's like she doesn't realize that a major pillar of feminism is not being judged on one's sexual activity and lack thereof.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Exactly, she's a pretty terrible person. Hadn't heard about her calling people virgins as an insult. Wow. And her use of that transphobic slur is disgusting.

[(Anonymous)]

tranny in the uk =/= tranny in the us. it's not considered a slur because it has a different meaning than what it does in the us, it doesn't mean transexual in the uk.

[(Anonymous)]

You sound white. Also a shitty person.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't come off any better.

[(Anonymous)]

I like her too anon, I love her books. I think she has got some really good points to make. I didn't know about this, it sounds a bit childish IMO, and makes me cringe. I think if I were the author though, I'd just forget about it. Writers of fanfic are essentially nicking other people's work in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

Writers of fanfic are essentially nicking other people's work in the first place.

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about the history of literature.

[(Anonymous)]

man

it always annoys me when people make this argument, like VIRGIL AND DANTE AND MILTON WERE TOTES JUST WRITING FANFIC GUYS!!! they weren't. there's a substantial, fundamental difference between what they were doing and what fanfic is doing. like, you can point at writers who were doing something that's not really distinguishable from fanfic through history. but they're not going to be the same writers who are the big historically important ones who you'd want to invoke to defend fanfiction. retelling the same story in a different way, or using existing characters, or referencing great works, does not make something fanfiction. most fanfiction, i think, comes out of a place of pastiche or imitation, and that's something different.

i'm not even trying to detract from fanfiction, it's just always seemed like a super weak argument that relies on calling things fanfiction that just aren't