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⌈ Secret Post #2549 ⌋

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[Perry Mason]

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[Johnny Weir / Thor fandom]

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[Swedish Chef/Gordon Ramsay]

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[Hannibal]

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[Big Bang Theory]

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[The Lion King]

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[Billy Madison / Happy Gilmore]

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[Caitlin Moran, Sherlock]

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[Tales of Vesperia]

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...the author can't cry foul, because she put it on the Internet. This isn't a difficult thing to figure out, you know! Once it's out there, anyone can (and, as demonstrated by what happened, will) do whatever they want with it.

So, wait. You're saying that if I find some stranger's selfie, and photoshop their head onto a porn star or some shit, that that isn't a fucking appalling thing to do because, 'tee hee, they put it on the interwebs, it's fair game!'
This isn't an argument about what people are capable of: it's an argument about what's reasonable or decent. I am theoretically capable of arson. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't face consequences if I set someone's shrubbery ablaze. Moran did something that - obviously - she was entirely capable of. That doesn't exempt her from criticism.

This is the most reasonable comment in this thread imo

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"So, wait. You're saying that if I find some stranger's selfie, and photoshop their head onto a porn star or some shit, that that isn't a fucking appalling thing to do because, 'tee hee, they put it on the interwebs, it's fair game!'"

That is my point exactly, that IS an appalling thing to do, which is why no one should post selfies to the Internet (or be surprised when something like the above scenario happens) in the first place. Why anyone WANTS to post selfies to the Internet (unless they're trying to sell stuff) is still beyond my understanding.

Applying your above scenario to fanfic, however: If you (the general you) can't write/draw something that you're not 100% comfortable sharing with potentially everyone, then maybe you need to rethink, if not necessarily why you're writing/drawing it, at least why you would post it in a public space. Would you stand in a subway station naked, and then get upset at the cops for arresting you for public indecency? (Okay, bad analogy, but still.)

If you're standing in a subway station naked with a thousand other people who are also naked, and they only arrested you, you'd probably get upset.

[Anon you're replying to, I don't understand half of the abbreviations people use]:
If I'm naked on a nudist beach, and I'm arrested for public indecency, and everyone responds to the news with, "Well, why were you naked anyway?'", I'm probably going to go on a 'Punching idiots in the face' spree.

And people put pictures of themselves online for all sorts of reasons, many of them with the expectation that they will only be seen by family/friends - but even if they didn't, even if they turned off every privacy setting in the universe and shouted to the entire internet "LOOK AT MY REINDEER SWEATER", they do not deserve to be publically humiliated before people they admire for that.

Oh, and people share things with the internet that they wouldn't share with their nearest and dearest all the time. Usually, in the totally reasonable expectation that people are not going to be utter shits and start dicking them about. You're starting to remind me of one anon who was convinced that if a LGBT person had come out to ANYONE, they should therefore be fine with being outed to EVERYONE.

Sometimes people just place themselves in situations where they can be exploited. That doesn't mean that when it happens, the reasonable response is to go, "Ha, they deserved it, they made themselves exploitable," especially when what they're doing isn't any different from what hundreds, thousands others are also doing.

In fact, that's textbook victim blaming, isn't it?

It's actually a pretty good analogy, but it should have been phrased like this:

You're naked, in your own house. Other people may or may not be naked in there, too, but that doesn't matter, because Caitlin Moran has gone out of her way and found the key under your welcome mat, let herself in, and decided to drag you out onto the street. Actually, you're not even naked, because "Coffee" wasn't that explicit of a fic, so let's just say that you're wearing underwear and that's it. But you're getting arrested regardless.

Would you get upset?

Well, that'd be kind of shitty because you've taken someone's work and altered it so it misrepresents the original work, all for the purpose of making them look bad. Did Moran do that with the slashfic? Did she edit it to misrepresent what the author had written, or to put words in the author's mouth? Or did they just read what the author had voluntarily written and posted to the internet?

I'm not sure your analogy is a good one.

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