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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-27 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2551 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2551 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. [SPOILERS for something but idk what]



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05. [SPOILERS for Frozen]



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07. [WARNING for rape]

[Martin Freeman]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. People who fall all over BNF's are fucking annoying. But the worst thing about them is that they over-inflate a BNF's ego, which in turn cause the BNF's to become shitty people. It's a fact of fandom, and I've seen it happen way too many times.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe that's true. None of the BNFs I met were nice people.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
i feel bad for the BNFs. it hurts them in the long run, i think. getting praise for your work is good, but THAT much and suddenly you're under constant scrutiny. your work has to be ALWAYS good, and you cannot make mistakes, and you get hated by strangers for no good reason. i have never been a BNF or had fame or popularity of any kind, and i would never want it. people who started out lovely and kind and normal are suddenly thrown into a spotlight and expected to constantly perform perfectly and that kind of stress can really fuck with a person (i imagine it's fun for a while, but when it goes sour it gets bad. eventually a universally loved person gets a hater and suddenly everyone is on board with the hater. and they hate... for what? it's all just awful)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
BNFs don't necessarily have to be GOOD at what they do, though. I've noticed fanfiction writers who are BNFs aren't always good at writing, but everyone knows them for whatever reason. And then everyone who ISN'T a BNF has their work scrutinized for not being exactly like that of the BNF.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
The blue you used seriously hurts my eyes. What the hell did the color white do to you?
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2013-12-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
What didn't the color white do to them? Man, I don't even want to think about it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ikr? I think my eyeballs are bleeding.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-28 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
White didn't do anything but that blue does the thing they like with its tongue.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. A lot of BNF encourage it. And I'm seriously seen BNFs first throw a fit because people wouldn't leave them alone (stop bugging me for updates! Stop sending me so many messages about how much you like my stuff ugh!, then later throwing a fit because people WERE leaving them alone (why is no one asking about updates? don't you guys like my stuff anymore? no one messages me anymore!).
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-28 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
KINK-SHAMER! Being again rimming! How dare you.

Kidding.

Hmmm... as for your secret, you could really apply this to the idolization of anyone. Oh Idris Elba is such a good actor it's not even worth it for me to try to get into the industry. Oh, Lynn Flewelling is such a good author there's no point for me to try and get published. It's not something limited to BNFs in fandom. People do it with sports, arts, work. It's kinda a natural human thing to do.

Now, that doesn't mean I always agree with all forms of being a fan or all forms of idolization. I don't agree with all the thinking or all the actions. I'm just saying it's pretty damn common on society as a whole on many levels and many people do it. The only difference between them is how society judges it. That depends on 1) How socially acceptable your focus is considered by society and 2) What the level of that focus is. How intense is it?

So yeah, I mean, feel however you want about it but it's probably never gonna stop.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Lynn Flewelling is a good author? Whut?

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Do you feel the same way about people who fall all over actors or authors or other types of celebrities? Or is it just with BNFs?
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-12-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Drooling over bnfs is a surefire way to make me hyperaware of the bnf's failings, so yup. Also, for fic writers, I frequently think the bnfs of most fandoms are the exact opposite of what I prefer, which would be just "ah well, different strokes" for a normal person, but which makes me grind my teeth when people go "omg they're the ~gold standard~" and ~better than canon~ and shit.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
This, 100%

Really popular fanfic has a style that I tend to find... mediocre, with simplistic content and characterisation, and a lot of fan service (the three pages of Draco having hot flushes because he's seen Harry without his shirt on sort of thing). BNFs' fics conform to that. The interesting thing I've noticed is that when BNFs' fics are posted anonymously, in fests, they still get the orgasmic reviews, so either people are recognising their work or the BNFs really are just pushing all the most popular buttons.

Secret 1 - Big Name Fans

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-12-28 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
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Every fandom I've been in has one major Big Name Fan whose name pops up everywhere. I get so much second embarrassment for the other folks who shit themselves over them and praise at their feet and froth at the mouth whenever they put something new out. I once saw someone write a LiveJournal post about how they saw no point in writing fanfic because the Big Name Fan was always going to be better. I've had a few Big Name Fans as friends and they're just normal people. The people who act like puppies barking for their attention are just... ugh.

So you like this person's art or writing, that's great but can you stop licking their arse now? Please?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Can someone give me some examples of BNFs? From relatively current fandoms (as in, last two or three years)? Because I've never been very good at the social end of fandom, and it always confuses me when people start talking about this sort of thing. Are there any current concrete examples of the kind of people we're talking about?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Was cassandra caire a BNF in harry potter fandom?

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Former BNF here.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I was a BNF in a fandom once. I was nice to the people who liked my work and tried to respond to all my reviews. I made one tiny mistake by saying I wasn't into a certain slash pairing when someone bugged me to write it(by bugged I mean they found ALL the sites I was on and messaged me asking me to write it!) and all that love and fame went away. One day everybody loved me, the next I was the evil slash hating bitch. All because I wouldn't slash a character who had a girlfriend in canon. I was not rude about saying no, yet that person acted as if I told them to shove their praise up their ass and smoke it. I got run off three message boards and Deviantart by this girl and her friends. I took my stuff down and haven't written or drawn since. I won't say what fandom or when. I don't want to rehash it more than this.

A tiny rumor ruins EVERYTHING when you're a big name fan. Anything you say can be twisted into making you the most loved to the most despised. I hated being under an internet microscope. I'm glad to be away from it, although I do miss participating in that fandom.

It's not worth it.

Re: Former BNF here.

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Re: Former BNF here.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
BNF in my fandom who played the social media right, got attention and now dates one of the top writers.

People in the fandom treat her work as canon and that's annoying as fuck as well as everyone going on about how great she is when her work isn't any better that anyone else's.

speaking as a BNF

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree. It's REALLY AWKWARD when people fall over themselves trying to get my attention, or when I comment on something freak out because I'm "famous" or whatever. I'm an ordinary person. Extremely ordinary. I do not know how to gracefully handle that kind of reaction and I know that it makes other people-- who I don't even know-- hate me.

Please stop. If you like my art or my fic, that's great, but it embarrasses me and everyone else when you act like I'm some kind of celebrity, and people assume that I'm an attention whore when I didn't ask for it at all.

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[personal profile] bored_bitch 2013-12-28 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've always hated this aspect of human society, as a whole.

Regardless of whether it's directed at BNFs, celebrities, etc.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I was told I was a BNF once, in a pretty popular fandom. I didn't know what it meant, so asked, and I thought they were implying that I like, posted too often and had no life or something, haha. I wrote a ton of fanfic, a lot with the most popular slash pair, and did a lot of community discussion and stuff, too. I had no idea there were politics behind "BNF-ness" until I came to this community. lol
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-12-28 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
yeah I hate the whole concept of BNFs and everything that goes with it

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I've gained a small measure of attention in my fandom and had this happen. It's... a little weird, tbh. I'm glad that people like my work but it feels funny when they treat you like your opinion matters more just because you wrote/drew XYZ.

Likewise, I've had friends go nuts over a BNF just talking to them. It was as though the clouds had parted and they'd stepped down from Mt. Olympus or something! It was especially awkward because I knew the BNF was a pedantic snotrag, but I kept my mouth shut and let my friend find out for herself.