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⌈ Secret Post #2552 ⌋

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Comments

Re: More Wonder Woman news!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm tired of people defending casting choices and character design choices under the banner of feminism, i.e. 'how DARE you criticize this character for wearing such skimpy clothes WOMEN CAN WEAR WHATEVER THEY WANT', which is not the damn point. Women can, real women. But women designed or dressed by men or marketing teams or corporations or anyone strictly to appeal to the male gaze? That's TOTALLY within the ballpark of fair criticism!

Similarly, it's not considered Hollywood chic for women to be well-muscled, and Wonder Woman is well-muscled. Selecting a petite-framed actress to play one of the most muscular pop culture women in the world isn't about diversity of body type, isn't about how women can look however they want and still be badass, it's about Hollywood seeing attractive as the most important female trait, and skinny to be the most important trait in attractive.

Re: More Wonder Woman news!

[(Anonymous)]

But women designed or dressed by men or marketing teams or corporations or anyone strictly to appeal to the male gaze?

What about the lesbian or bi-girl gaze? Or is that clumped under "male gaze"?

Re: More Wonder Woman news!

[insanenoodlyguy]

Usually they aren't the primary target in mind.

Re: More Wonder Woman news!

[caecilia]

Don't get me wrong, I like looking at hot women, but I also identify with the woman I'm looking at and I can tell when she's made to look like a sex object for straight men. I don't like being a sex object for straight men, and I don't like being forced to go along with their sexual fantasies (and this happens to straight/bi women too, sure they get a lot of male eyecandy but the male characters are made to look the way every guy in the audience wants himself to look).

Say I watch a movie with a straight guy friend. Say it was a Hollywood movie and the only female character is there to look hot for the guys. We could agree that she is hot, we might even find the same traits attractive. We could then watch a movie that had a lesbian audience in mind (But I'm a Cheerleader is a good one) and agree that the women are attractive and the sex scene is hot, but the way the women are presented is very different. The way I imagine women, and the way I want to see women on the screen, is closer to But I'm a Cheerleader than basically every image of women I've been exposed to on a daily basis for the past 25 years. I think straight men would benefit from this too because it seems to me that they think only one body type is hot, and there are so many different types of sexiness that they are missing out on.

I hope this made sense, it was really rambly. tl;dr I agree with the anon you were responding to, and I, as a lesbian, want the image of women in movies to change because showing a woman as a person rather than a sex object doesn't necessarily mean she has to be unsexy.

Re: More Wonder Woman news!

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly!

The biggest problem with casting Gardot isn't that she'll do a bad job. It's what it says about the priorities of the people making the film. It says that they care more about how hot the actress playing Wonder Woman is than how she fits the part or how believable she is. It makes me worry about their priorities, and that makes me worry about how the movie's going to come out.