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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-01 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2556 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2556 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more the way the show keeps making these jokes like gay people existing is oh so hilarious. I don't think anyone would complain about it irl.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
That might make the show homophobic but I don't see how it makes the character homophobic.

op

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that is what I meant.

I don't think it's offensive for anyone in rl to get annoyed if someone kept thinking they were gay and they weren't, it's the way the show makes such a joke out of the very idea that really gets on my nerves.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
The way you word the secret puts a lot of emphasis on the character, not the show writers, especially since you mention the fans love for him and that you think Martin Freeman is an asshole.
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Re: op

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-02 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
That's the fault of the writers, not the character.

A somewhat blurry distinction, I know, since the character is controlled by the writers. But here's the rule of thumb I use: imagine that the events of the show were all actually happening IRL, without being controlled and manipulated and made up by a writer. In this scenario, would his behavior be homophobic? If no, then it's not the character that's homophobic, it's the writers who keep writing him into situations where he has to go "I'm not gay," and framing those scenes as jokes or digs.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
Well that is not, *in any way*, what you said. You pretty much flat out said a particular character is homophobic if they are straight and say so when questioned.

But you backpedal now no-one agrees with you.

Slashers. Reality check. Antithetical.
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Re: op

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-02 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh ffs. Don't lump slashers in with the OP please. You're just undermining your otherwise intelligent and reasonable comment. I think you'll find several of the people here criticizing the OP for their boneheadedness are slashers themselves.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
The joke in the show isn't the idea that gay people exist or that they are mistaken for being gay and that's just so funnay because lol gay people.
The joke is that two guys moving in together are assumed to be a gay couple and everyone around them is so damn focused on not being homophobic, of being accepting and open to it in a "it's okay to be gay, you don't have to deny it" way that they overlook the fact that the guys are not actually gay.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly! The joke is that everyone is being so preemptively accepting and pro-gay that they don't even see what's actually there.