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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-01 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2556 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2556 ⌋

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Re: If a character is only an asshole by accident due to the writer's douchery...

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-02 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a big fan of reclaiming characters and since I never take the official writers' work as Gospel, I usually have no problem going "LOL THAT EPISODE/STORYLINE SUCKED IMMA IGNORE IT," which includes incidents where characters act like douches in nonsensical ways. I do like it if I can come up with creative explanations rather than ignoring them, but only if the pleasure in creating the explanation exceeds the pain in acknowledging the douchey behavior's existence.

As for historical stuff -- I like my characters more progressive than was the norm in their society at the time. That's all. After all, a lot of stories set in the present day that seem just fine to us now will probably be winced at and thought of as horribly outdated and prejudiced a few decades in the future, but that doesn't mean I should consider the characters in present-day stories to be bad people when judged against hypothetical social progress that I don't even know about because it hasn't happened yet. It's impossible. So the same goes for my opinion of the good-guy-ness of fictional characters in historical eras.
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Re: If a character is only an asshole by accident due to the writer's douchery...

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-01-02 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Your first paragraph is pretty much my approach as well. If a character says or does something in one chapter/episode/whatever that completely flies in the face of previous characterization, makes no sense, and annoys me, I have absolutely no problem saying NOPE and discarding or ignoring that incident. For most things a character does, there is an in-universe explanation -- but sometimes, the only explanation is "bad writing," and trying to force any sort of in-universe logic onto it is just going to warp the rest of the canon and make me disappointed, so I'll chalk it up to writer!fail and move on.