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⌈ Secret Post #2557 ⌋

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Comments

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

I'd love it if he were, the screams from the rabid sjw-fans would be deliciously palpable. Doctor Who fandom needs a real kicking, savage like, it is so full of entitlement bitches and SJWs.

[(Anonymous)]

So you're really willing to put up with shitty writing to get rid of annoying fans?

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

Apart from Rings of Akawhatsit, which I will admit was a mess, I have seen no evidence to support those claims. Nor have I seen any evidence of the harem of slave girls the SJWs assure me he keeps in a broom closet at television centre. What I see is a different style of writing that focuses more on mythological and fairy tale themes in contrast to the more conventional space action series of his predecessor, but Doctor Who writing has always changed.

It is the secret to the show's longevity that it has been a historical/educational show, a space-thriller, a spy show, and environmental exploration show, a show of political allegories, then onto hammer horror in space, the Tom Baker/Douglas Adams comedy sketch show, a mindbender show, a violent space video nasty, a left-wing thought experiment, a US X-files clone, then a children's space adventure clone, and now bang up to date with an exploration of the more mythical themes-meta story where time travel isn't just the tool to get the cast to the adventure but an integral part of the adventure itself. I can't wait to see what it is in another few years, but I hope it is still not filled with you entitle whores bitching about how it isn't following the script within your own head, you dozy fuckers.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow - you really are angry that people have different tastes than you, aren't you? Kind of amazing how much you care about what other fans think, honestly.

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

No, I'm angry that the people with different tastes are demanding that only someone with their tastes write for the show or get to have a say in fandom. It is that people with different tastes don't want anyone else to have different tastes to them.

[(Anonymous)]

You're the one here's who angry at other fans and who's claiming that they should be able to determine who gets to have a say in the fandom. You started this by saying that everyone who disagrees with you needs to leave the fandom, including literally saying exactly that to someone.

Let's be honest here - no matter how much you've been watching the show, you're just a fan like everyone else watching here, and that's what's pissing you off.

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

No, what pisses me off is I'm not allowed to watch an episode and say that I enjoyed it without being screamed at by sjws for thinking wrong or RTD fans for saying I liked something that was in a different style. The anti-moff group are the ones that are pissed because they are just fans and don't have their grubby little protuberances on the script controls. How dare someone make a show the way they don't like it, and how dare other fans like what they don't. They must be shouted down, which is what you are doing btw trying to shout down someone that says they enjoy the current era. You are just another hypocritical sjw.

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't understand how you can say all this while ignoring the fact that you literally did the exact thing you're complaining about in this very thread.

But, w/e. I guess some people are just going to be irrational. I'm sorry you get so angry about all this stuff and can't just enjoy watching the show like the rest of us.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, you must have some really shitty friends. Or you are a troll. Because there are a lot of Doctor who fans on my dashboard and they can talk like rational adults about things they like and dislike.

[kallanda_lee]

I'm not sure how you make the link to SJW's, to be honest.

Yes, they're out there in every fandom, but most criticism I've heard on Moffat's run was a) bad character development b) unsatisfying story arcs and his inability to finish them in an even remotely satisfactory manner c)lack of emotional depth d) ignoring past canons by just explaining them with "timey wimey a,d e) just generally dumbing down the show, making it more a "kids" show than a "family" show.". None of that is SJW-related.

And yes, there has been criticism of his portrayal of women, but Davies got that too, and you don't have to be an SJW to enjoy good character writing for women.

[arcadiaego]

There seems to be some kind of idea that the only way you can hate on Moffat is for feminist reasons. Personally I don't think his publicly stated misogyny comes across in the show - I still think it's really badly written.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, look. There are always eras of Doctor Who people dislike. There are always show runners of Doctor Who people dislike. Stop acting like this is a new thing or because of SJWs.

My issue with Moffat has more to do with the way he writes arcs and companions. And it should be noted that I wasn't always fond of the way RTD wrote things either - he was way to obsessed with Rose and I think he handled the whole Martha era poorly. Moffat is a great writer, he just doesn't handle long term arcs very well and tends of fall on tropes for characters a little too much.

[chardmonster]

Yeah, for me it's entirely a companion thing. We wouldn't have another Donna or Martha because both aren't entirely dependent on Doctor Who for validation.

That's fine for one companion. A couple in a row, in the 2010s instead of 1960s? Then I worry. Maybe it'll be less creepy now that the Doctor's an old man again and not a young flirty guy.

[(Anonymous)]

It probably won't be. This is Moffat, afterall.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if I'd agree about Donna all that much though. She goes off with the Doctor because she's become convinced travelling with him is the only way she can improve her less than stellar life. Fair enough. The Doctor can show you things no-one else can, but then at the end of it all she has to have her memory wiped and has to forget him she basically ends up right back where she started. And the implication seems to be without the Doctor's influence she can't go out and make just as awesome a life for herself without him. Even her grandest moment basically involves her having to meld with the Doctor in some way. For all the complaining about Amy and Clara lacking agency and the issues with Moffat's writing the one thing I liked was the implication that their lives away from the Doctor were as valuable or worthy to them and that they could have lives independent of the Doctor.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope it'll be better too.

[wake_the_dragon]

Agreed.

I don't hate the way RTD ran things or the way Moffat does, but there are definitely things I dislike about both of their runs. I like both Ten and Eleven a lot, I like all the companions for the most part , but there was something about each of their runs that bugs me. It'll probably be the same with whoever eventually replaces Moffat.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Yeah, I mean I ADORE the fuck out of Fourth Doctor, but even that run there are things I take issue with. (Them having Sarah Jane scream in situations she wouldn't after all her time with Third would scream at being one.) That doesn't mean I suddenly hate Doctor Who and are a 'bad fan tm'.