[ SECRET POST #298 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #298 ⌋

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Notes:

- Early 'cause I gotta turn laptop off and get out of class jsdkfhskjd
- First comment is Name That Fandom!
- Do this! Go!

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 96 secrets from Secret Submission Post #043.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken link, 0 not!secret, 0 not!fandom, [1] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, October 31st, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[panksters.livejournal.com]

I ran a game a few years ago with some OK muns who gradually made their characters more and more OOC. When I attempted to fire one, and tell another it was my decision to fire her as the only mod, a bunch of them quit and started Mygamename2. It was retarded.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, that's VERY retarded. Sorry that happened for you. I don't know much about what happened in that roleplay, really. But it sounds similar from what I saw. I actually didn't care for the some who left. They played some .hack GU characters in a way that made me cringe. They were so out of character it felt like they were ruining them because I love those games so much.

Those who play characters out of character really ruin it, so I'm glad you chose to boot one for it.

[panksters.livejournal.com]

Certain fandoms always send up red flags for me. One of them is .Hack.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I understand why. I'm a fan of the games, but I'm not in the fandom in any way, shape or form for that reason.

[inksmears]

Ironically, it was an issue with .hack//GU that caused the drama to begin with.

[(Anonymous)]

Doesn't really surprise me...

[faithxhealer.livejournal.com]

...that was the straw that broke the camel's back, not the whole issue.

[inksmears]

See, I thought so, too. That's what I was told. But for more than half the people who left, I don't think it was the final straw as half of them weren't even involved. I kind of felt it was the excuse.

That's how I saw it from the outside looking in. If that's wrong, sorry. But that's how it looked.

[faithxhealer.livejournal.com]

Oh, the .hack// thing wasn't the source of the problem. The problem - the way in which players were mistreated - had been going on for quite a while before that. The .hack// issue just upset the .hack// muns, their friends who were in the RP heard about it and got upset on their behalf as well, and...well, people stick up for and stick with their friends. That particular little bit of discord was the catalyst for deeper issues, not the cause.

[inksmears]

If you say so. I can't say I really agree, but I can't prove otherwise and can respect it.

Whatever the reason, the point? It needs to fucking be let go already. It's been TWO FUCKING MONTHS since it happened. The fact that Econtra is still STALKED by a certain person so they can post shit on Bad RPers Suck or make secrets like this... That's just sad. I know I'VE moved on. I know just about everyone has except, apparently, the few who will remain unnamed. Even though I know exactly who they are.

I'm sorry it happened. I really am. But I'm more sorry some people can't just let it GO. I can certainly respect everyone who left for whatever reason regardless of whether or not I agree. I had HOPED, in return, everyone else could respect Econtra even if they hated people/the place and move on to their own happy RP place. I was apparently wrong. This is putting stress on people who may want to stay in both RPs or stay friends with each other, too. It's a lose-lose situation. I don't know what this is suppose to accomplish, but it isn't doing shit except making people get headaches.

(Sorry, mini rant. Not directed at you. Just in general. I'm so sick of this and seeing people who have nothing to do with this directly getting upset.)

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't see the .hack characters as out of character, but I saw a bunch of the others as being out of character.

[(Anonymous)]

Well no matter where you go in ever roleplay there will be characters out of character. Some more than others. I just noticed the .Hack characters more because I'm real into it. I thought they were pretty bad. Well at least two of them. Out of character stuff is tricky because it really is a matter of opinion.

[inksmears]

Sorry to ninja in, but wow, your story is eerily similar to what happened indeed. It kind of makes me shake my head. RP drama is so silly and always easily avoidable...

[panksters.livejournal.com]

It can be really funny if you're not involved though.

[inksmears]

Indeed. 'Tis why I love Fandom Wank on JF. XD

What happened I couldn't consider funny because of sheer "...WHAT?" value. It was more like that disbelief 'Are you for real?' feeling. At least for me. :/ So it still kind of gives me a headache looking back on it. Especially still seeing secrets that aren't so secret posted here about it. Like I don't know who wrote it. -_-

[grazie.livejournal.com]

Except for the part where Template isn't a ripoff in any way, shape, or form.

Face that and move on, just like you yelled at others.

[inksmears]

I never said Template was a ripoff.

[grazie.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, I thought the similar you implied was the fact that Template is a ripoff. Which I thoroughly disagree with.

And I thought I had seen you agree with it in other places, but I was mistaken. At any rate, I have homework, and I don't have time to do sarcastic icon battle. :D

[inksmears]

Neither do I and I believe I've told you that before.

I use my "sarcastic" icons all the time because they're funny. What's your point?

[grazie.livejournal.com]

I don't have time to do sarcastic icon battle because I have homework is the point. :)

[inksmears]

... Okay, I’m not entirely sure how I ended up on your hit list, Raina, when I never had a problem with you despite everything. But I’m going to make a good guess and say, overall, I’ve become guilty by association.

I’m sorry my icons gave off the wrong impression as that was definitely not what I was trying to do. I generally let my words speak for me and not my icons. I assume most people can figure that out when words and icons contradict each other, but I guess not. I’ll remember this for the future. Here’s a nice neutral one for you that I hope you do not find offensive.

I never had a problem with you. In fact, I think you were my friend at some point. And when all the shit went down, I was angry at you, but I got over it. I don’t hold grudges; I think doing so is stupid. Hence why this secret rubbed me the wrong way to begin with. Just because I may have disagreed with you and thought what you did and still do wasn’t/isn’t fair, it never meant I hated you or I’d get in your face about it. I’m capable of being respectful and civil with someone I may not always agree with. You spew self-righteous words about being civil and courteous, but I have yet to see you follow your own example.

But then you made me uncomfortable because I felt that same respect and understanding was not, and never would be, returned. It was why I left Template even though with all my heart I wanted to stay for the friends who were there. I still have faith that those people don’t agree with what you or anyone else here is doing and I feel bad for them. I really do.

And that’s why I guess I have to be the better person and walk away. I thought you would be the one to do it since I’m pretty hardheaded and stubborn, but I was wrong again. So I bow out now and just hope that you don’t treat anyone else who may not see eye to eye with you like this--like those who want to stay in both RPs.

My only regret is that I will probably lose, if I haven’t already, those who moved on to your RP as friends. Since I doubt they want to be squashed under your heel, too.

In any case, my sarcastic icons and I will leave now and hopefully never cross your path again.

[myroyalname.livejournal.com]

If you don't mind, Yukina, I would be more than happy to IM you with why I became upset with you, as I do think you deserve to know as a former friend. But that is entirely up to you. (Sorry, playing on my Natalia name)

I would rather this not become any more public. :/

[grazie.livejournal.com]

And... this is why you probably won't stay friends with anyone who left during this drama. Because every time we try to send you subtle hints that open things for discussion, on a non-wanky level, you pretty much ignore them.

Have fun with Econtra, Yukina.

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

I was in an RP that had a similar experience. I wasn't directly involved, but the wank became so annoying I couldn't enjoy the game anymore and left.

[(Anonymous)]

It sucks when such drama ruins roleplaying for others. Though I don't know exactly what happened to cause it in this roleplay, it felt like a lot who left left out of spite or something. Especially when they created that rip-off roleplay.

But yeah I can understand how drama would make some people leave. I probably wouldn't have been able to handle it either.