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Ugh, like, at all of these comments.

Now, I wouldn't call it "homophobic" like OP. But I'm gay, and yes, I do find it disheartening that now that some of the characters are women, it's "okay" to put them in relationships with other characters. Yes, I know all too well that probably no modern show would have the balls to make the characters gay, but it's still kind of sad to me that this is the only acceptable form.

Yes, I do think it's cool that some characters were genderswapped. We need all the good female representation on TV as we can get. But we have far less gay representation, and I think it's sad that the commenters here are reducing this issue to "LOL SLASH FANS CRY MOAR." I suppose you're all straight and don't really give a shit.

(again, I don't think it's homophobic that female!watson is in a relationship with.. whoever, I don't watch the show. but it's an example among a million of examples that gay people don't get to be represented, and that if Watson had been a man - the same person, same character - this show would not have included a sexual relationship.)

Like I said above, these girls don't get it. I'm straight and I hear exactly what you're saying.

honestly? i'm pretty sure most of the comments are replying to HOMOPHOBIC PIECE OF SHIT not to "it's kind of shitty that they wouldn't have had this relationship if they were both dudes."

hell, i agree that it's shitty. i wish gay people would have better representation. what i don't agree with is that Sherlock is a homophobic piece of trash or that the show's makers had some kind of moral responsibility not to make important characters female so that they could have a gay relationship, and that's what i think people are responding to. and maybe that's kind of unfortunate but you can't divorce the responses from the context of the original thing they're replying to.

Did you see the latest Sherlock? What did you think about the double standard between Sherlock/Molly and Sherlock/Moriarty?

I'm pissed about it, naturally. But not surprised because I never expected anything decent from Sherlock writers like I had from Elementary writers.

I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it, really. It's so blatantly obvious.

But we've been assured by many anglophiles on this very site that the UK has no problems with gay people - or indeed with out gay actors - so it is very odd, no?

Unless the anglophiles were full of shit, of course.

Really? Because reading a secret like this, one is supposed to see a well-reasoned argument for LGBT representation in the media and react to it as such? Guess what, I'm queer, I care about above issue very much, and I still this person is ridiculous and deserves exactly the response they're getting. A hysterical fan whining about a direction the show takes by couching it as an argument against homophobia -- yeah, thanks, that's really helpful -- will find no defender in me.

Ah my favorite: "you disagree with me? you must be straight!"

I'm queer too. I still laugh over the time a guy had a crush on me and a mutual friend said "but she's way gay". I also care about gay representation in the media.

I just hate that people have taken a show that has improved the lack of female representation and are complaining about it not making those women gay men instead.

Yes it sucks that they would not have had these relationships if they were the same sex. It also sucks that not a single other Holmes adaptation has had any gay relationships either.

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The fact that making the same relationships happen with the female characters in question being male would be a huge risk for an American prime-time show to take doesn't make Elementary a "homophobic piece of shit", it makes the American media landscape homophobic. OP was placing the blame on the wrong people and that's what irks me.

And no, not straight, tyvm. Way to devalue your own argument.

Oh those poor Elementary creatives! So very set apart from "the American media landscape," right?

They're not victims of it and they're contributing to it, but their responsibility isn't to create representation. It'd be awesome if they did, but their job is to make their show successful, and there's still a perception that homosexuality makes a show "special interest" and not for mainstream consumption. That perception needs to change, and individual programs making the decision to change it is great, but I'm not going to call showrunners or shows homophobic pieces of shit for not doing it. I'm going to call them homophobic when they're actually being homophobic.

Fuck off, I'm a lesbian and I think you're full of it.

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