[ SECRET POST #2559 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2559 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

IDK, I'd take awful slash clichés over awful het clichés any day. At least awful slash clichés are a little less likely to reek of internalised misogyny.

[(Anonymous)]

This comment certainly reeks of something.

[(Anonymous)]

It reeks to high heaven, in fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Seen how a lot of slash has one character being the "man" and the other being the "woman" with all that entails, I have to disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, and that's soooooo much worse than female characters having their canon personalities completely overwritten so they can play damsel-in-distress/girlfriend for some 1-dimensional male character in someone's shitty fic.

Except it isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Both suck.

[(Anonymous)]

lol You do realize that the "woman" man in the relationship takes the place of this, right? The womanman is essentially that, only this damsel in distress has a penis.

[(Anonymous)]

OP is making it sound like this happens more often in slash than anything else. My point is that this is not the case.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, my "I have to disagree" above was to the fact that one can be by default better than the other because it contains less upsetting tropes, and my point was the same as yours: that upsetting tropes happens both in het and slash equally.

[fingalsanteater]

I haven't read a fic that features this trope in a long, long time. It's actually pretty easy to avoid inexperienced writing and naivety.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I see this veeery rarely in slash anymore.

Japanese doujinshi still promote this though.

[(Anonymous)]

+1.

Slash fandom has come a LONG way. Japanese doujin still promote it, I agree. But BL manga (original stuff) also has more diversity in dynamics now.

[(Anonymous)]

Er, what? Slash fic is chock full of fridged canon female love interests. Look at all the Johnlockers salivating for Mary Morstan to be killed off/be the villain.

[(Anonymous)]

Whaaaa??? I'm not seeing that at all, perhaps it's just in my corner of the fandom but i'm seeing pretty much EVERYONE be like "MARY IS AWESOME brbwritingsomethreeways"

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I like Mary, but I still don't want her around. It's the 'John being married' plot that I want to die, and it's difficult to imagine any other way for it to work except to kill her, have her be the villain or get dumped.

Plus, ya know, she's already been fridged a century ago.

I personally prefer to read fic where she just doesn't exist or is just a friend or client, rather than one where something bad has happened to her, but if other people want to write fic where she dies or whatever, I don't think it's always borne of misogyny. People like angst in fic. And it's understandable for a lot of people to dislike a newly introduced character who changes the dynamic of a show.

[dragonimp]

I dunno. I don't think slash is as disproportionately tropy as the OP says, but the tropes that are there have plenty of misogyny.

[blunderbuss]

LESS likely!? More like a MILLION TIMES more likely, in my experience. In a het ship the writer has to at least like one female character. In slashfic they're free to murder all the women so they can worship the pretty boys.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, even if the het shippers like one girl of the whole cast, they tend to be much more vicious towards the other female characters in my experience. Or they don't really like any of the female characters in the cast and kill them all off/bash them and replace them with their self-insert characters. But it probably depends on which corner of which fandom you're in.