fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #2563 ]

Skip to Main Content

[ SECRET POST #2563 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2563 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.

__________________________________________________

02.

[ao no exorcist]

__________________________________________________

03.

[Leverage]

__________________________________________________

04.

[Doctor Who, Sherlock]

__________________________________________________

05.

[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

__________________________________________________

06.

[Frozen]

__________________________________________________

07. http://i.imgur.com/NKDHxDP.png?1?4348
[Big Bang Theory; warning for suicide/depression]

__________________________________________________

08.

[Amy Poehler]

__________________________________________________

09.

[Deep Space Nine/Babylon 5]

Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 035 secrets from Secret Submission Post #366.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

07. http://i.imgur.com/NKDHxDP.png?1?4348
[Big Bang Theory]

Same here, OP. The fact that someone takes antidepressants isn't a punchline.

I have clinical depression and suicidal thoughts. I like dark humor. You either laugh or you wind up crying. One's preferable to the other.

Same. The jokes in question could be funnier or more clever, but I don't have a problem with the fact that they're being made at all. Sometimes dark humor is for a reason.

Eh, it's not really dark humor, which I appreciate sometimes too. It's more like "Hey, look at this loser!" There's ways you can do that where it works, like the episode where he and Raj try to talk to people at the mall. It's over the top and typical sitcom "exaggerate this person's negative traits". But the way they do it where just him dropping in the fact that he's on meds or he's depressed as the whole joke doesn't work for me.

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 00:13 (UTC) - Expand

+1

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 00:16 (UTC) - Expand

Re: +1

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 17:38 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 00:16 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 00:43 (UTC) - Expand

Is this really applicable in this situation though, because this is more audience laughter at the character, not solely the character laughing at his own situation.

It's called black comedy. Whether it's being done well is another issue entirely.

BBT is not black comedy

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 03:42 (UTC) - Expand

Once I saw (before switching the channel) that they made jokes about self-harm as well, so it doesn't surprise me.

(It was a scene about a girl saying that she resumed cutting herself after hearing Sheldon and then it was followed by canned laughter)

That wasn't canned laughter. As I understand it, the series is filmed before a live audience.

Why isn't this having a trigger warning?

If you're triggered by the mere mention of a fictional character merely having clinical depression and suicidal thoughts you really need to stay off discussion boards.

I'm not saying that to be mean. If the very word "suicidal thoughts" is enough to trigger you you don't have any safe spaces and need an intervention. A secrets community is not good for you.

Edited 2014-01-09 00:39 (UTC)

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 00:41 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

chardmonster - 2014-01-09 00:42 (UTC) - Expand

...you already complained in the GC, and case said it would be fixed. Now you're complaining in the thread. If you're that "triggered" and having full-on PTSD panic attack, why don't you get off the computer, go drink a glass of water, and go talk to an actual person?

...or would that be too difficult for you, seeing as how you're "triggered" by dancing electrons on a glowing screen of plasma...

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 01:23 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 03:59 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 20:10 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 04:18 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 07:00 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 07:09 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 17:41 (UTC) - Expand

Oh, is this joke as overused as the one about how fat Howard's mom is?

I still think that the best way to ignore and exclude a group is to stop making jokes about them. That said, the jokes on that show might even have been moderately funny in the beginning, but they've been done too often to still work. Not everything works as a running gag.

This is downright stupid

"I still think that the best way to ignore and exclude a group is to stop making jokes about them"

Oh, so that's why people made jokes about me and other people with my mental issues? They're trying to include me?

Sorry, that's not how it works.

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 10:26 (UTC) - Expand

No idea how these jokes are used (I gave up after Amy was introduced) but given how other stuff is handled, that they use this stuff as material doesn't surprise me at all. How they're done, I can't really comment. You might want to just not watch, OP, I don't think this show is going anywhere for a while, so ignore it as much as you can?

[the big bang theory - some dude]

I used to like this show

But the fact that a majority of the jokes involving this character are essentially "He has clinical depression and suicidal thoughts *laughtrack*"

IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE WRITING THIS SHOW?

[the big bang theory - some dude]

Stuart, the comic shop owner, played by Kevin Sussman.

Every character on this show has been turned inside-out and upside-down from what they originally were. It's rotten, and it makes me furious. Wasn't Stuart originally portrayed as being relatively confident and sociable, compared to Leonard & Co.? Just a nice, regular guy who happened to be into comics?

Big Bang Theory has not been good since Season 2 or 3. There's still the occasional cute or funny moment, but I don't know how anyone can stand to watch the disintegration of these once-great characters.

And I've been treated for clinical depression and it's impacted my life, too.

I have no objection to dark humor if it's skillfully done, but simply *mentioning* sad or controversial topics and then cueing the laugh track is not well-written humor.

Wasn't Stuart originally portrayed as being relatively confident and sociable, compared to Leonard & Co.? Just a nice, regular guy who happened to be into comics?

Mmm...no, I don't think so. Granted, I only caught the early seasons in reruns, so they weren't in order, but I'm pretty sure it was one of his earliest appearances when the boys kept him from closing the store, and his response was something like 'no, no, that's fine...I was just going to go home and have a TV dinner with the cat...it's not my cat.' He did have a couple more or less successful dates with Penny, but then, Leonard's managed to rope her into an actual relationship, somehow, so that's not really a good metric for determining of he's socially successful.

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 04:40 (UTC) - Expand

To clarify, I can appreciate (and greatly enjoy) black comedy. I'll even think a suicide joke if funny as long as it's done in an extremely absurd, over the top way.
But simply having a character mention that they have depression or they want to kill themselves is A. lazy as fuck B. not a fucking joke

Sure you can have a character try to kill themselves with a bungee cord, a jar of peanut butter and a kangaroo because it's so ridiculous and no one actually do that

But having mental illness be a 'punchline' is seriously fucking disrespectful to the MILLIONS of people who suffer some serious problems that aren't 'funny' at all

***And on a side note, if their intended audience is supposed to be 'fellow nerds' (not that we should expect the writers to be consistent about anything at all) a character that exists mostly to make fun of people who are depressed is kinda imprudent due to the sheer number of people in fandom who have some degree of mental illnesses...

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 04:01 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-09 11:13 (UTC) - Expand

I've never seen this show, but I had similar issues with Scrubs and the character Ted. The constant "lol he's suicidal because his life's so awful and he's so pathetic" jokes rubbed me the wrong way. I know people here are saying it's black comedy, but at the same time I do have to wonder if people would consider it equally fine to make similar jokes if the character had a potentially life threatening illness that was physical (eg. cancer) instead of mental.

I didn't even know any disorders were acknowledged. I thought the show was implying that suicidal tendencies and depression were caused by the person being lonely and a loser, which is also an issue, and one I've seen in a few other things. I haven't seen the whole show though.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only