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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-10 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2565 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2565 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
...yeah, and Watson's "no homo" reactions in this episode were written by the aforementioned openly gay man. Characters don't act on their own, they have to have people writing their actions. Clearly Gatiss doesn't have an issue with the "I'm not gay" jokes since he wrote it into one of his episodes.

Of course one gay man's feelings don't reflect that of an entire group, but since most people crying foul over this are straight people then I find it hard to agree that this stuff is homophobic and as terribly offensive to gay men as they try to make it sound.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, every article criticizing the show on LGBT blogs have all been written by straight people.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, there are actually LGBT people in the world? You don't say?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Most =/= every.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
This is the secret of life, the universe and everything...

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
You do realize that the majority of the slash fans on tumblr are straight women, right? That's actually a large part of slash fandom, straight heterosexual women feigning outrage over gay representation so they can have tehhawtbuttsecks*drool*

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
http://centrumlumina.tumblr.com/post/63112902720/heterosexual-female-slash-fans

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
87% were readers, compared to 90% overall,

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
You do realize that the majority of the slash fans on tumblr are straight women, right?

this is an idea that needs to die

Most of the slash fans I know are either or a combo of: bi, trans (both MtF and FtM), genderqueer, asexual, or gay.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

I am sick of everyone with a legit complaint about something fandom-related being told 'STFU straight fangirl' without any consideration that the person may not be straight? Queer people are allowed to ship too ya know.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
Thirded. Yes bloody THIS thankyou.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
The thing I don't understand is...well, there's always been a modern 'oh er missues wink wink' view on the relationship between Holmes & Watson and it would have been odder to me if they hadn't acknowledged this and at the same time kept it true the canon in that Holmes & Watson weren't a gay couple.

It makes me a little sad that we now view close male friendship as something gay.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me a little sad that we now view close male friendship as something gay.

This. But I think we've become so Freudian, we assume that all close relationships are basically sexual.

[We assume, for example, that all adults are potential paedophiles. My own experience, as a childless woman who has never wanted children, is that there is still some hard wiring in me that makes me respond maternally (not sexually) in certain situations...]

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
Once, maybe, even twice. But they keep on doing it and it has become childish.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
"but since most people crying foul over this are straight people then I find it hard to agree that this stuff is homophobic and as terribly offensive to gay men as they try to make it sound."

Well here's one non straight person who also thinks it's bullshit. I agree that it's hardly the worst sort of homophobia they could be perpetuating, but it's still fucking irritating.

People are so quick to yell 'oh shut up you're just butthurt about your ship,' when it's more than that - though unfortunately a lot of people do only care about the shipping.

The real problem with it is that people who think being gay is something to be laughed at are having their views validated by all those jokes. The casual viewer has no idea what goes on on the internet, doesn't know about 'shipping' or 'meta jokes' or that people have theorised and debated about Holmes/Watson for decades. They just watch the show and laugh at how awful it is for these poor straight guys to keep getting called gay. Laugh at the idea that the heroic male leads could be anything but straight. It's not the worst sort of homophobia out there. But it's not funny either.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
good try but most people i've seen criticizing it has been queer.