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⌈ Secret Post #2565 ⌋

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Doctor Who: Donna's ending

Torchwood: Ianto's ending (or Tosh or Owen) actually not the fact that they died, but how they died, seriously?

Bones: Brennan and Booth ending up together and having a child, or actually never mind that: Zack apparently being a killer! By God that was stupid!

Hawaii Five-0 (new one): Catherine quitting her job and ending up working for 5-0, she was awesome in the Navy...

Grey's Anatomy: Meredith and Cristina's stupid argument thing that is going on right now, or the fucking plane crash, which probably is the reason to the argument anyway, and if that didn't happen two of my favorite characters would still be alive!

Gilmore Girls: I always wanted Rory to say yes to the proposal in the last season...

That's all I can think of right now, there is probably a lot more stuff I would change if I could.

~~I fear I am revealing my bad television habits right about now...~~

With Bones, I always wanted them together. But when it came to the actual execution, the fact that her characterization was completely changed and ruined, and that the entire narative became about him being right and her wrong and the things he wanted being more important than what she wanted, I lost interest.

I did too, but the way they handled it just ruined the entire show for me... And is still only one out of two shows I stopped watching because they ruined the characters completely for me. Heck I stayed for the entire run of Torchwood, and that wasn't pretty, but yeah.

*Resisting urge to catch up on two seasons of Bones*

Keep resisting. Not worth it. I never give up shows. Ever. I gave up this season. I wish I'd given up sooner. The only other show I've given up is Supernatural.

Ah, good to know! I gave up halfway through last season I think... Oh I am getting caught up on Supernatural... I think I might be the only person on earth that didn't hate the Evil!Castle storyline.

Bones and Castle are the two shows I've given up on, but I am also majorly behind on NCIS and NCIS:LA, but that is more of a time issue, not a giving up on the show issue.

I still like Castle. Its one of the few shows where I feel that the romance didn't ruin the characters. I haven't loved every episode this season, but on the whole the quality was still good.

I never actually got into either NCIS. I've watched a few episodes here and there, but I found most of the characters (at least in the main version) to be too dislikable.

I should probably get caught up on Castle, don't remember why I stopped. It was at the same time as Bones, NCIS and NCIS:LA, so I was majorly busy and had to streamline the amount of television I watch. So I quite those crime shows and kept Psych, Criminal Minds* and Hawaii Five-0 if I remember correctly...

NCIS:LA has awesome characters, NCIS is just something I watch because it is nice to have in the background...

*Which I am regretting looking back

The only reason I will occasionally tune into NCIS:LA is for Hettie. I love Linda Hunt so much.

Hettie is awesome! But Deekes and Kensi are seriously pretty and I could just spend my life looking at them doing nothing...

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-11 01:43 (UTC) - Expand

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

making_excuses - 2014-01-11 01:47 (UTC) - Expand

+1 on Donna's ending and Torchwood.

Meredith and Cristina's fighting made me sad. Their whole bffness is what makes the show for me. I love that they love each other and are each others person. I was not pleased. At least it looks like they've kinda made up at the wedding?

Oh God Torchwood and Donna endings where bad... Why on earth did they think that was a great idea? As someone who had Ianto as their fav, I am oddly okay with his death, but Gwen being the only survivor? Seriously?

I hope they will make up, but I don't think they will and that breaks my heart. Their friendship is awesome!

Gwen living because she's the "heart" made me roll my eyes. I don't hate Gwen, but the fact that she outlives everyone got stale by the end of the series.

SPOILERS for the end of the season (in white):

Cristina's actor is leaving this season. So I really hope they make up. I'm angry that they had her last season filled with Meredith and Cristina fighting. Totally unnecessary.

That was just idiotic. I will quote my friend here "How is it possible to hate a character so much in an otherwise awesome show?" to illustrate how much I dislike Gwen, it started in episode 1 with the throwing around equipement thing, then the cheating and so on. She is the character type I hate the most in fiction: Those characters that are *good* and *nicer* than everyone so we should forgive them everything, because they are so nice! I disliked Izzie for the same reason.

My other friend loves Gwen tho, which makes for interesting conversations about Torchwood.

I was going to say the spoiler thing in my comment, but I wasn't sure you knew or not. I hope they aren't getting them to hate each other to make the Cristina thing "easier".

I want to point out that I don't dislike Gwen because she comes in between my ship, because that isn't true, nor is it a good reason to not like a character. I love Catherine in H50 and she comes between my ship in an huge way...

I made my peace with Gwen in season 3 when she was cute with Rhys and baby (and got a case of mom badassery), but cheating on him AND THEN WIPING HIS MEMORY made me rage. The writers just expected the audience to forgive her as she's Gwen, but that shit was despicable and I don't hold hating Gwen against anyone.

I really hope not too. If that's the writers plans for C/M, then I don't know how I'll continue watching Grey's. My faith in the writing would plummet and I've stayed with it through thick and thin.

~~Nah, the "will they or won't they" aspect of Gwen/Jack grew on my nerves by the end. Either bang or don't. They were being unfair to their lovers and that shit grates on my nerves.~~

I actually liked Gwen in the last season! Which was an odd experience for me. Yeah, and the fact that it was expected that we should forgive her for all her faults is probably about 50% of the reason to why I disliked her as much as ended up doing, because all the things she does is things I could forgive a character for doing if they actually somehow had to take responsibility for their actions.

I don't know how I will continue watching Grey's after this season, because Christina is the last of my favourite characters still in the show... Well I still got Karev and Jo*, but will that be enough? It isn't that I don't like Meredith and the rest, but they don't interest me in the same way as Cristina does...

~~Oh that was bad, I didn't like any part of the Gwen/Jack storyline, but it isn't the reason to why I don't like her.~~

*I like them both for the same reason, they had shitty childhoods and managed to get ahead in the world anyway...

I like the rest of the Grey's cast, so I can see myself still watching it... but I feel like the dynamic won't be the same... so I'll see how it goes. I won't jump ship until I see how Cristina exits.

I like Jo and Karev too. I wasn't sure if I'd like them hooking up (as I liked the bff dynamic), but they make a cute couple.

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

making_excuses - 2014-01-11 02:17 (UTC) - Expand

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

sootyowl - 2014-01-11 02:23 (UTC) - Expand

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

making_excuses - 2014-01-13 20:11 (UTC) - Expand

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

sootyowl - 2014-01-15 05:40 (UTC) - Expand

I adore Gwen because I was introduced to Torchwood via Children of Earth. But looking back at some of the previous eps I'm like "WHAAAAAAA--"

I think watching Torchwood the way you did would be a lot less enjoyable than from the start. Ianto's death is still one of the few fictional deaths I cried when it happened and I even knew it would come, as F!S managed to spoil me for it.

Sorry but I sorta...really hated season 1 and 2 of Torchwood once I got around to it -- it was just really not my thing at all. Whereas watching CoE without any prior knowledge of the show apart from what I had gleaned from crossovers with Doctor Who -- totally frickin' amazing. Yeah, I cared far more about the central plot than Ianto's death or the details about the characterization and relationships, but I was viewing it as if it was its own story, and as a story, the plot WAS a bigger deal than Ianto's death.

Though I actually slightly retroactively soured on CoE once I checked out the backstory by watching season 1 and 2. When I watched CoE, the only character I knew anything about was Jack, so I viewed the whole arc as an amazing if incredibly bleak standalone miniseries, as if it was an adaptation of an original novel set in the Doctor Who universe, rather than a savagely darker-and-edgier third season of an established-cast show that irreparably exploded everything that made the show what it was and broke up the remainder of the core cast. Even if I didn't actually like what the show was in season 1 and 2, I can still appreciate how the fans must have felt.

Re: If you could delete just one incident from a canon, what would it be?

making_excuses - 2014-01-13 20:13 (UTC) - Expand

I rage-quit Bones when they made Zack the killer's accomplice. I've caught a handful of episodes since then on TNT, but FUCK THAT SHOW for their treatment of Zack. I don't care if that season's arc was screwed over by the Writers' Strike, there was no good reason for that development to have been planned with either a normal or shortened season.

I continued to watch, then they killed my favourite new "intern" and I still didn't quit, then they ruined Bones character and I stayed on until she was virtually unrecognizable... You did a smart thing Anon!

The Zack thing was the stupidest resolution of an story arc ever created, and I include Donna and Torchwood into that account.

Also, it made Sweets boring and useless as a character (they were careful to set him up for it - and then had nowhere to GO with him post writers' strike).

Another thing: the writers BUG THE FUCK OUT OF ME for making such a big deal about Booth being catholic and then getting BASIC SHIT WRONG like needing small things like needing godparents at a freaking baptism. And no, they can't be your parents. The whole point is to have people in case your real parents feck off and die - which seemed pretty damn likely at the time.

And yet ANOTHER thing: I was kind of stupid in love with Nigel Murry. And I would have been OK with him being killed off and all, but for the fucking IDIOCY of the lime in a coconut being his sendoff.

Seconded so hard on Bones. I was okay with Booth and Brennan dating, but her deciding out of nowhere "I want a kid! And I want you! In a Real Relationship!" just didn't jive at all with her characterization.

And even though I was spoiled for Zack being the killer, I still felt it was set up to be Sweets and they did a last-minute switch because Zack's actor wanted out. I would've been happier with Sweets-as-Gormogan killing Zack, even though I'm usually against killing off characters instead of writing them out gracefully.

I completely agree Anon.

SPOILER, if you care about that Anon:

Yeah that was what it seemed like. I would rather have a dead Zack than a in a mental institution for a murder he didn't even fucking commit Zack!

Yes yes yes to Torchwood, bones, and Hawaii Fie-O. GAAAH. I stopped watching after the whole Zack fiasco. WORST PLOT 'TWIST' EVER.

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