[ SECRET POST #2567 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2567 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Tumblr and/or social justice in and of themselves aren't fandoms, unfortunately.

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Comments

[blunderbuss]

... Okay, dang.

To be fair, I like the central IDEA behind the prequels better; showing off this vast empire and this entire order of awesome monks before it all spirals into war and chaos. And the idea of a tragic messiah figure becoming the antichrist is always good to watch.

It just, uh, failed on execution.

[(Anonymous)]

They failed so much, on basically every aspect of the execution. It's astounding. I wish they hadn't, because there's a lot of cool stuff in there and they could have been pretty awesome.

[blunderbuss]

I know and it just breaks my heart.

Could you imagine how sad it would have been if Anakin was a good and likeable person who shared a devoted love with an amazing woman but that was the very thing that damned him to decades of hate and torment? They wrote operas and theatre about that shit. It could have been - well, the next Star Wars.

But then we saw adult Anakin deliver his first wooden line and that went down in flames. *sheds single tear*

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. God, Hayden Christiansen was awful. Everyone else was decent, but unfortunately he was kind of playing the most important role in the whole prequel series.

It's not like they're that far from being decent! Cast anyone in place of Hayden Christiansen, get a decent scriptwriter in to tighten up the plot and the dialogue, drop about 10 or 15 minutes from each one, and don't do so much CG wankery, and you're basically there.

[blunderbuss]

I would argue otherwise, anon. The IDEA is there but goddamn does it need a lot of editing and retooling in order for it to not be the smoking mess the prequels were.

There's actually a dude on youtube who's doing a series about 'what if the star wars prequels were good' and he basically does exactly this. He does quite a bit of retooling but he's certainly capturing the central themes and plots waaaaay better. Especially his main point: this should be OBI-WAN'S story with Anakin as co-protagonist.

[(Anonymous)]

I will give you everything for this link please

[blunderbuss]

Begin here, good anon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICnbC2-_Y

[ketita]

I'm not sure if it should totally be Obi-Wan's story, if only because you want to preserve the drama of Anakin turning to the dark side, and I think it hits the audience harder if they're going NOOO DON'T DO IT not only for Obi-Wan's sake, but for Anakin's. In that sense, I would keep the general character emphases similar to what was in the movies - have Anakin gain more prominence as the story goes on, but I would definitely still keep Obi-Wan as a major player.

But yeah, it could have been so freaking epic. So heartbreaking. I wish we could hope for a do-over, but...

[cbrachyrhynchos]

The dirty secret about Star Wars is that Lucas did not write or direct the best films of the series.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. Lucas' ex-wife is the reason for a lot of the success.

[(Anonymous)]

Also Lawrence Kasdan and Irvin Kershner for Empire.

[(Anonymous)]

He's actually a decent actor WITH A GOOD DIRECTOR. (Watch him in Shattered Glass sometime, he's great there.) As is Natalie Portman. WITH A GOOD DIRECTOR DO YOU HEAR ME GEORGE LUCAS. It's extremely difficult to direct yourself, especially on film which is a director's medium. Both of them were let down terribly by Lucas, their scenes are just...cringe-inducing.

[intrigueing]

EXACTLY this :)

[(Anonymous)]

The biggest problem with the worldbuilding, for me, was how short the timeline was for that spiral, and at least some of that problem is aesthetic. I just couldn't buy that this ultra-fancy CGI galaxy where even the dust looked new and shiny was only fifty years before the hard-worn, lived-in universe the original films introduced us to. And I preferred the hard-worn, lived-in universe because it felt more real.

[blunderbuss]

I totally agree. If I did the movies myself, the first film would be Anakin as a kid, the second as a young adult on the cusp of maturity and then finally as an adult veteran. You should be able to see him grow and feel bad about his immense potential as a person before it all goes totally to hell.

And I agree about the CGI-ness. I have a preference for models and puppets precisely because they look more lived-in and real than CGI. But you're right, they do need to explain how this ultra-shiny place got so shit. Maybe they could make things look worse as a way to show how the republic was in decline or how the war was straining resources, or only reserve the ultra-shiny for specific things (Theed being a good example, right before it gets trashed).

That really should be the theme of the prequels; look at this shiny world! Now watch as it slides slowly into the hell we saw in the original triology.

[nightscale]

I wish you had done the movies because that I would have been happy with, not the plank-of-wood 'why the fuck am I supposed to care about this guy?' Anakin that we did get.

[lyndis]

late to the party but when I saw episode i that was exactly what i said. i felt like all the ships looked completely fake; this is space. they're going to be dinged up in like five seconds flat.

[(Anonymous)]

The dialogue alone makes you weep.

[(Anonymous)]

Monologue on sand, anyone? [/JesusWept]