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If you leave out zombies, what is there to write in a post-apocalyptic setting? I'm honestly baffled.

Survivors of a catastrophe. *Everyone* doesn't have to die, just most people.

Life After People finds a lot of stuff to say, and that's without any humans at all. Throw in some people trying to survive and you've got all kinfs of stuff to write about.

That's an awesome show. (Saw a mini-series of it, wasn't aware it was a book.)

It's so fascinating what happens to everything in the built environment without people around to maintain it.

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There are tons of things. Dystopian anarchy or oligarchy set up by surviving bullies, radiation causing all kinds of weird illnesses or mutations, space explorers returning to find a broken and empty Earth, all kinds of other ideas...

Besides which, zombie-post-apocalypse pretty much implies that the zombie virus was the cause of the apocalypse, and there are plenty of other things that can fuck shit up on a major scale.

Post-nuclear. Post-world war. Lack of ability to grow/create food = starvation/mass population decline.

I mean, I love me some zombie apocalypse and would probably pick that over more socio-economic type reasons for an apocalypse, but they're not all there is.

Not all apocalypses are zombie apocalypses. How is that baffling in the slightest?!

This, seriously.

For real.

Man... what a question. Modern times, huh?

There's tons of things to write about - all kinds of stories about how people try to adapt to living when the support structure of civilization disappears, and stories about their lives in that kind of environment. Even if you don't include zombies, there's plenty of stuff to write about and plenty of people have written about it.

I mean, for Pete's sake, there's been two separate prime-time network TV shows in non-zombie post-apocalyptic settings within the last 5 years. This question is just strange to me.

...are you for real?

On The Beach?

The Chrysalids?

A Canticle for Leibowitz?

Planet of The Apes?

Alas Babylon?

The Postman?

Note: I'm not endorsing all of these (I'm definitely not a fan of the Brin book), but they all meet OP's criteria.

What was your problem with The Postman? JW - I remember enjoying it quite a bit, even if the ending was kind of dumb.

AYRT

Ehhhh, IDK, it's one of those "It's not you, it's me" things. I just can't get into Brin. Try as I did (I read loads of his stuff in the '90s), his writing overall just doesn't grab me. I can't recall offhand specific things about the book(s--originally it was two novellas) that I actively disliked; I just find everything I've read by Brin to be dull. Which isn't a reflection on his writing (which is good), it's just my own personal taste. *shrug*

Sorry I can't give direct examples. I very very remember reading the first novella/part in an old magazine I bought in a secondhand bookstore in the late 80s, but can't recall specifically what it was about the book, other than having to struggle to finish it.

Which is something I've found with all of Brin's work that I've read. For whatever reason, my brain just thinks his style of writing is unbearably dull (even though it isn't).

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The Chrysalids~~. <3 I love the Chrysalids, it was one of my favourite books as a kid. Between that and Day of the Triffids and Pride and Prejudice.

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A Canticle for Leibowitz

I cannot recommend this strongly enough.

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DA

Also The Stand by Stephen King

Packs of feral dogs. Mutated cockroaches. Poisonous atmosphere. The list is endless.

Packs of feral dogs.

Tooth and Claw by Stephen Moore if from the POV of the pets of a town after a (possibly local) apocalypse. With no humans to take care of them, they form into gangs and run feral, cats vs dogs. If I remember correctly, there was a bit of a Romeo & Juliet thing between a cat and a dog who had been pets together before the end, though it could have been more friendship. It's been a while, I read the book as a kid rather than recently. It was pretty cool, though.

So, yeah. There's post-apocalyptic cat vs dog survival drama out there, if you chance across it.

You should play some Fallout if you haven't already. Post-apolayptic rpgs with people, mutants, altered social heirarches, some zombieish folk, etc. Although the first two definitely are less serious grim-face in tone than the Behthesda ones. Still recommend all of them.

edit: whoops i see you mentioned them down below o/

Edited (i sometimes refuse to read entire threads before responding welp) 2014-01-14 00:45 (UTC)

Fallout 3 is definitely the grimmest of them all, but the Fallout fandom has made a lot of noise about how Fallout 2 (and later 3) weren't as grim as they thought Fallout 1 was.

These people are stupid, however, because Fallout 1, while being quite dark, had a sharp sense of humor right when it was needed most.

"What do you want?" "A donut."

LOL IRL

Try thinking what would happen after the end of The Day After Tomorrow or 2012.

On 2012, I once debated a Transformers crossover with a friend where Barricade (the evil police car) snuck onto one of the ships.

The same way as everything else is written. Without the zombies.

(incredibly baffled by this being a question)

You could honestly replace all of the zombies in The Walking Dead with greedy human gangs and cannibals and shit without having to change much of the story at all.