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Re: Ta-Nehisi Coates/Modern European History
(Anonymous) 2014-01-18 05:20 am (UTC)(link)It's not that it wasn't bad. People got shot at the word of their neighbors that they're traitors, for example. My family history again - my grand-grandfather was saved from execution because he was away at the time, purely by chance.
Not to mention the huge loss of life during WW2... What I'm saying is that the life was hard and the government wasn't helping.
Collectivism is still practiced in Ukraine, where workers work together in agriculture, by the way. The equipment and earning are shared.
The most well-knows famine in USSR is this one. (At least I heard about it, which doesn't negate what you say about the other ones, of course.) Careful, this Wiki has graphic photos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1921
And there's the Siege of Leningrad. So I could believe that Soviet government would allow the hunger and not care for its people. Saying that, USSR was very multicultural, which was a part of the official ideology, so I don't believe there was a genocide.
IA about it being different for everyone. In Russian college I had a teacher who said that the life in USSR was easy and most of the class went "WTF, no!".
Saying that, I find it all sad and am going to stop tracking this thread. Hope I contributed at least some to this discussion.
Re: Ta-Nehisi Coates/Modern European History
I don't know that about collectivism in Ukraine. I will have to look more into it. The 1921 Russian famine and photos are very upsetting and the warning is appreciated.
There is often a difference between official ideology and laws, and practices that were/are carried out IRL. I can see why there is a legitimate argument that genocide was not committed, that the famine was the result of a series of policies that stacked up in an ultimately unfortunate manner. The intent to destroy is a part of the definition of genocide, and this is the part that may never be proven for the actions that resulted in Holodomor.
Thank you for sharing your family history. It is painful for you and I very much appreciate your thoughts and experiences.