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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-21 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2576 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Trek is just fundamentally better at TV than movies, so all the movies are going to be weird and different.

I mean, like, look at the TNG movies - suddenly Picard's an action hero!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Picard had plenty of small action hero moments in the series though -- he just never had an opportunity to use them as extensively as he did in the movies.

(Narratively speaking, though -- yeah, I agree with this.)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, fair enough, I guess it would have been more accurate to say "primarily" an action hero or something like that? Anyway you know what I mean.

Let Me Tell You About a Time-Honoured Trek Tradition, Children

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Even-numbered movies are gold.

Odd-numbered movies are pyrite.

Got that?

Good.

(No idea if the reboot follows the same curse formula or not.)
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Re: Let Me Tell You About a Time-Honoured Trek Tradition, Children

[personal profile] lynx 2014-01-22 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
ST: 2009 was decent enough.

ST: ITD was a painful trainwreck and I want to forget it exists.

I guess it's a reversal?

Re: Let Me Tell You About a Time-Honoured Trek Tradition, Children

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
There's an explanation for this, and it's called "The Galaxy Quest Corollary."

It means you count Galaxy Quest as a Trek movie and it all fits together. That's all it means really. But you go First Contact (good), Insurrection (bad), Galaxy Quest (good), Nemesis (bad), ST09 (good), STID (bad). And it all fits together pretty nicely.
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Re: Let Me Tell You About a Time-Honoured Trek Tradition, Children

[personal profile] lynx 2014-01-22 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I feel more enlightened now, and it makes so much sense, honestly. You're right. Thank you :3b

Re: Let Me Tell You About a Time-Honoured Trek Tradition, Children

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt - I'm familiar with the rule, and I agree with it, to the extent that the even-numbered movies are much better. But I don't think they're really all that fantastic - they're good Star Trek movies, but there are certain limits.
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[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-01-22 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Are you not remembering the episode where Picard was John McClane with a saddle?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm honestly not sure if you're serious and there's an episode I'm massively forgetting, or if you're talking about Starship Mine, or if you're joking...
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[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-01-22 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Starship Mine, that's the one, yes.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
I do like that episode as well. It's a fun one.

I agree that Picard is a badass, and that's not what bothers me. I feel like in the series, Picard is basically an intelligent, perceptive, analytical, wise commander who can also kick some ass when circumstances require it, whereas in the movies he's kind of... lock and load.

Honestly, it might be that I'm just bitching about not liking First Contact here.
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[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-01-22 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
On the one hand that's true - in First Contact, he's a lot more "shoot first, fuck asking questions" than he is in the series. But on the other hand, that's because he's facing an enemy that did things to him about which he still has unresolved PTSD symptoms, so I think his departure from his usual modus operandi is justified in this case. The Borg are kind of Picard's berserk button; I'd be surprised if he were as level-headed when going up against them as he would be with any other foe.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-01-22 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I freaking love that episode.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Aww man, there was this tie-in novel...I don't remember if it was objectively good but I loved it...that involved movie-timeline Piucard starting to deal with losing his Enterprise, and there was this holodeck 'training tool' that Kirk had supposedly collaborated on (which I could actually buy) using his ship's logs...so it was Picard observing some instances from TOS and talkign with holo-Kirk about why he'd done so and so. And Picard was like "bro why are u always on the landing party? that's against regs, the captain is important and so must be protected" and kirk was like "bitch, why the hell is the captain more important than the crew? I'm not action-ing as an ego trip, it's my duty to the crew" and picards all hmm interesting

and at the end of the book he was like U KNOW, FUCK IT, this is me cowboy-ing! ...hey this is actually kind of fun. and effective.

...I apologize for this post. But I have a lot of feelings about movie!picard and that book is part of it. carry on.