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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-22 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2577 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2577 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Theresa Lopez-Fitzgerald-Crane, from the soap opera Passions]


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[BBC Sherlock]


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[Nobunaga the Fool]


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[Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia from Star Wars]


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[The Quick and the Dead]


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[Nathan Fillion]


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[Warehouse 13]


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Re: So I just read some stuff that "Dual Protagonists are not reccomended"

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-01-23 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Shitty writers giving shitty writing advice because they themselves struggle with something (or personally don't like it) yet you can find almost infinite examples of people doing the opposite and doing it well.

There was a "published" author on my LJ feed (indie erotica vanity press published, I mean) giving all kinds of "never do this" and "always do this" advice, and I got so sick of it I started to respond "well, actually, X author did that thing you said to never do and it was great, and X, Y, Z all didn't do that thing you said to always do and it was great" to which she responded "yes but you aren't as good as they are - I struggle with those myself".

...She's never read any of my writing. She just assumes everyone reading her "advice" is a worse writer than she is, and needs patronizing to-do lists. This guy is probably the same. There are metric shittons of books with dual or multiple protagonists that have sold more than this guy ever will.

Re: So I just read some stuff that "Dual Protagonists are not reccomended"

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-01-23 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect this with a lot of people who say "don't do this or that" either that or they haven't read good one before.

Also I remember a time when a bunch of people on dA made personal lists of what made lists of what they thought made a Mary Sue. There was this one chick in 2006 who said if your character has a songfic/music video to a Miley Cyrus song they're a sue. Because I really hate Miley Cyrus" and I was like

"...but what the fuck does a music video have to do with characterization? It just means the writer has different music tastes then you. Chances are if it is bad it's because the author is shoehorning their fave singer in a story it doesn't fit. Not because of the artist."

Also on the original Dr. Merlin Mary Sue test - "if your character is related to canon turn your test in, automatic Sue". I was just like 'fuck that'. Because jeez it;s like "Canon Characters can't ever have relatives unless they're mentioned in canon...ever...it's just bad". Like what if it makes sense in context? Like you're writing about a family reunion or something. You just have to write the character as more than their relation to canon.

But anyway....yeah I hate when authors tell writers "just don't do it" unless it is a legit actual bad writing thing. Because when they say shit like "having your characters be abused is bad writing and probably just means you want sympathy" or something it like "...what so nobody's allowed to write about abuse or dysfunctional families? fuck off".

Sorry I got off topic...