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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-23 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2578 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2578 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-24 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
Erm, I do not know where the whole thing about her supposed to being in fandom as opposing to nunning, but the "waste" part was me feeling sad about sequestration (of the type her convent did practice) from a whole world of wonderful things. Plus I kind of abhor the idea of mandatory celibacy (but that's an offshoot of my own religious education, so who am I to judge).

Anyhoo, dial down the condescension, why don't you? I said this secret was offensive because I know exactly why it is, which is why it's a SECRET. I usually don't comment on other peoples' religious beliefs or choices in a non-anonymous setting, because duh, IT'S NOT MY PLACE.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-01-24 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly I used fandom as an example because this is a community on dreamwidth about fandom.

Aaaaannnnddd the rest of that is still you thinking your ideas of what's worthwhile in life should be the same for nuns. So it's conceited, as I said. Which you seem to acknowledge sooooo...?

I'm not being condescending. I'm just calling that opinion you have assholeish. Yes, this is your secret. You made it a secret because you can't say it anywhere else. (Again, because assholeish.) This is also the comments section where everyone can voice their opinions on the secret. So, I did that. I don't really see a problem here. We're both doing exactly what this community is made for.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-24 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
First, the comment was likening some people's devotion to and worship of fandom with the devotion to and worship within religion. Because some people really do get that deep into their fandoms. (It's kinda scary when they do...) Now, we can replace "devotion" with "obsession," here, and it's equally as descriptive, depending on your own stance. Starting to make sense?

However, the implication in the movie that the Mother Superior started pulling away from the community because the neighborhood went to pot. Then, when they do start interacting with it again, we can see the community starting to become revitalized. It was a bad decision on the Mother Superior's part, but she was scared of the change and wanted to protect the women who came to live their lives under the convent's roof.

Theirs was not initially a cloistered convent, as you seem to be suggesting. The Kathy Najimy character even says she wants to work in the community, getting out there and saving lives. A friend of mine is about as bubbly and out going, and she didn't last long in a cloistered convent -- can you imagine Najimy's character really sticking around if she thought she couldn't do the good she wanted?

Devoting oneself entirely to something you love is never frowned upon when it's family, a tangible partner, work, etc. It's rather sad you think someone devoting their life to their love when it happens to be religion is such a negative thing.

On the flip side, I'm glad you realize how offensive this is.