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fandomsecrets2014-01-23 06:43 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2014-01-23 06:43 pm
[ SECRET POST #2578 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2578 ⌋
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(And I don't know how much comfort this'll be to you but if your friend decides that being a nun isn't for her after all, they'll let her go and wish her well if she asks to be released. If it's not the right place for her, nothing's been done that can't be undone... or possibly redone, if she leaves and wants to return later in life. Some orders are far more forgiving than others/the priesthood.)
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To be honest it's kinda better. She found a cloistered convent, Carmelites I think, to join but found after sixth months it wasn't for her. She was still in training so hadn't taken her vows yet. She still intends to become a nun but is now looking for something that gives her more access to her friends, family, and the world outside in general. (There were/are other things but it's personal so I'm not gonna break her confidence.)
But yeah, I don't understand most of it because I'm not Catholic but whatever she chooses, even if I'm hurt by the loss of her, I must respect her choices.
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And yeah, the cultures between the various orders can be very different. Some are much, much stricter than others. And some are incredibly democratic and hold elections, including international ones, for all of the ranking positions within their order. (There's still an expectation of obedience but the understanding is that the followers got to choose who they'll obey. And when elected, the various heads take it super seriously and try to look after everyone to the best of their ability.)
Also, there are a lot of orders that work to create change in the secular world - they take care of the poorest of the poor, work to create legislation against the death penalty, minister and teach in schools, prisons, hospitals, etc. all over the world, and there's even an order that heckles the Vatican about the Church's more conservative stances. I knew a nun when I was a child who soldered things and made stained glass windows for the community. There's even a famous art critic/teacher who's a nun! (I, uh, watched her lectures to help me get through AP Art History.) Cloistered convents can un-cloister themselves if they feel it's needed - for instance, there was one that voted to un-cloistered themselves to come out and fight the U.S. death penalty and minister to those on death row - but no one should count on that when they join.
Whatever your friend wants/loves to do, there's an order that either does it or order(s) that would help her set up an offshoot of their order to do it. But I've been told that the hardest part of taking Holy Orders is finding the right order to take them with. Fit is apparently everything since they will literally be your family for the rest of your life.
(And yeah, I've known two nuns who gave up their Holy Orders. One left with a priest, who she married, and they raised an enormous family together.)