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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-24 06:50 pm

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dethtoll: (Default)

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-25 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Never quite understood why people complain about white folk in Japanese media.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
In living memory the german army gave them a massive inferiority complex by being substantially better than they were at what they did after a century of prizing themselves as a martial people, and then america bombed the fuck out of them.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-25 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, I know that, and you know that. But do people complaining about how anime is "whitewashed" despite being done entirely by Japanese people know that? Or is this just good old typical SJW-flavoured Eurocentrism, holding Japanese media to Western standards?
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[personal profile] fenm 2014-01-25 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

I mean, given that most anime features nothing but Asians--and usually specifically Japanese people--the idea that there's a problem with one show having nothing but White people seems... weird. Like, are you afraid Japanese media doesn't have enough of what we would consider "characters of color"? Cuz most anime features nothing but that.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen people seriously argue that anime doesn't have enough POCs. There was an article (I think it was The Mary Sue, but I can't find the article now) that listed recommended anime. Included was "Avatar: The Last Air Bender". Several people pointed out that it wasn't actually anime and the writer replied that they included Avatar because anime characters were "white-washed" and Avatar had actual POC repesentation. Several people contested that for obvious reasons.

The writer eventually replaced it with another anime but never actually retracted the "whitewashed anime" comment (that I saw, at least).

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Because they're ignorant fucks. All characters in anime/manga are Japanese unless stated otherwise. They need to read up on the concept of mukokuseki.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
That's stupid as fuck.. Change it to to "All characters in anime/manga living in Japan are Japanese unless stated otherwise" and we'll have a deal.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see how? I thought the unless stated otherwise took care of that.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Because there are tons of anime with no Japanese characters. I'm watching some old Gundam shows right now, most of the characters have no nationality because they weren't born on Earth, I don't see why I should assume that they are all of Japanese descendant.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Rereading that first line it sounds bad. I wanted to say "there are tons of anime with characters that are not Japanese", not that there were no Japanese characters at all.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
The unless stated otherwise pretty clearly takes care of that though, but whatever, I see your point.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
If you're talking about UC Gundam, there's actually a faq info about what ethnicities the characters are. Some are Japanese, like Mirai Yashima and Hyato Kobayashi. While others are mixed raced or other races that aren't white. Only Sayla Mass, Char Aznable, and Bright Noa are confirmed to be European. It's actually a pretty diverse cast.

Unless you're talking about another old Gundam show. Then idk.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking about Gundam ZZ, that's the one I'm watching right now. None of the kids have Japanese names or look Japanese, so I'm assuming that none of them are Japanese.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Gundam ZZ is actually considered part of the UC Gundam timeline (along with Mobile Suit Gundam 0079, Zeta Gundam, 0080 War In the Pocket, 0083 Stardust Memory, MS Igloo, MS Team, Gundam Unicorn, Gundam F91, and Victory Gundam). I guess I was using only MSG 0079 examples, so I didn't make myself clear on that. But you'd be correct in assuming that ZZ Gundam cast is just as diverse.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Aryt again

My last reply seemed a bit passive aggressive and I apologize for that. Thought you were being pedantic. I get your point, I really do. There's quite a few anime/manga not set in Japan that includes a mostly Japanese cast and I thought my wording would cover those instances.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, it's okay. Your response was fine.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, anon. :3 How are you enjoyimg UC Gundam? It is on my backlog. My tertibly huge backlog.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Right now I'm watching Gundam ZZ, and I can't say I like it that much, but I don't want to skip anything, so here I'm, forcing myself to watch the episodes. It's sad, I loved Z Gundam and 0080 so much, two of my favorite Gundam series, but ZZ is so damn boring.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, I hope that it gets better just so you don't have to suffer through it. Have you picked up the Origin manga? I need to but money is tight atm so I can't. Who are your favorite Gundam character?

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
You know, it probably goes further than that. Japanese people might forget and see white or vague Europe-based fantasy anime characters as Japanese even when they're not, just as a lot of white people will forget and see Japanese anime characters as white when they're not. That's probably why Japanese creators tend to give characters the same skin tone even when they're setting the thing somewhere other than Japan. They really just forget that not everywhere is as racially homogeneous as Japan.

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
... no idea why that whole last line got crossed out. It was supposed to say They really just forget that not everywhere is as racially homogeneous as Japan.
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Re: SA

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-25 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
if you're trying to use italics you want <i> not <s>
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Re: SA

[personal profile] fenm 2014-01-25 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I think they wanted it stricken out, but forgot to close their tags.
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Re: SA

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
nothing to see here i didn't completely miss that bit you didn't see me fuck that up

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Forgotten already.

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