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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-24 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2579 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2579 ⌋

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Re: Technically you can be pro-life and not hate women...

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I think the only way a person can really be "pro-life" without being anti-woman is by not thinking through the implications of their position. Because it's all very well to say that an unborn baby deserves a chance to live, and stop your thought process there... but the reality doesn't stop there. Saying that a fetus deserves a chance to live in spite of the unwillingness of the woman whose body it's occupying to remain pregnant places the rights of the fetus above the rights of the woman, and effectively negates a woman's ownership of her own body, making it acceptable to turn her into an unwilling incubator for someone else's sake. That's pretty anti-woman.

If a pro-life person doesn't think about their position beyond "but babies!" then they may not hate women, but they also don't have a very well-thought-out position.

Re: Technically you can be pro-life and not hate women...

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Or they may understand that being a forced incubator is a horrible thing to put a human being through, but not as horrible as murder. The same way a pro-choicer can believe that abortion is horrible (and maybe even murder), but not as horrible as forcing someone to be an incubator.

Re: Technically you can be pro-life and not hate women...

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
That's the thing, though: conceptualizing abortion as "murder" necessarily implies that a woman does not have a right to refuse to be an unwilling incubator. Otherwise, even if one did think that killing a fetus carried the same moral weight as killing a born human, it would be considered self-defense, rather than murder.
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Re: Technically you can be pro-life and not hate women...

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-01-25 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wouldn't it only be considered self-defense if the mother's life was in danger?

Or does self-defense legally apply to other kinds of threats as well?

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