[ SECRET POST #2580 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2580 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Disney's rewrites usually shit on the original stories they are (mis)using, and that really irks me. (Glaring at you here, Frozen.) But I have learned that everything Disney is sacred for the USA-born (from a lack of traditional American fairytales perhaps?), so un-anonymously I shut my mouth. But it is hard sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

But if you had opened it, some people might have pointed out that while this is a problem for you, there are those who don't mind a retelling deviating from the source. Those people might have even grown up reading the original tales, while living nowhere near the US. Isn't that strange.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I happen to both read and write fanfiction, so I have no problem with rewrites and AUs (besides, fairytales are originally a genre of endless re-tellings). I just specifically don't like the Disney twists. Their characters are like the Stepford wives of fairyland to me.

[(Anonymous)]

As a kid I didn't like Disney for that reason. I never really minded different versions of the fairytales, but something about Disney's versions always bugged the hell out of me.

I still don't care for the earlier Disney movies, but enjoy some of their later movies.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not american, and I love Disney. While some of the rewrites irk me to the point of not watching the movies (Hunchback and Hercules, to be exact), I'll forever be glad that there's a version of the Little Mermaid where she doesn't die because the writer was a mysoginistic nice guy who couldn't deal with the fact that the woman he admired from afar got married. (AHEM. Sorry, that's a hot button for me)

When I was a lot younger, I was a bit angry that we didn't get the cool parts of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, for example, but then I had a lot of fun telling my friends at school about the real stories during recess. Hell, I got to read books that no one in my family knew existed thanks to Disney, like 101 Dalmatians, The Hound and the Fox (Another one that I'm glad they stopped before getting to the real ending) and Mary Poppins.

TL:DR, some people like those rewrites and it has nothing to do with knowledge of the original tales.

[(Anonymous)]

...I thought the writer of the Little Mermaid wrote it cause the MAN he admired from afar got married...?

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, it was a ballerina he was in love with. That's why the original Little Mermaid is a ballet.

[(Anonymous)]

I do remember that from the (EXCELLENT) Hans Christian Anderson movie...why did I think it was to a man?

*googles* ah! It's a theory from some historian dude. "Rictor Norton, in My Dear Boy: Gay Love Letters through the Centuries, theorizes that The Little Mermaid was written as a love letter by Hans Christian Andersen to Edvard Collin. This is based on a letter Andersen wrote to Collin, upon hearing of Collin’s engagement to a young woman, around the same time that the Little Mermaid was written. Andersen wrote ”I languish for you as for a pretty Calabrian wench... my sentiments for you are those of a woman. The femininity of my nature and our friendship must remain a mystery.”[11] Norton interprets this as a declaration of Andersen's homosexual love for Collin."

[arcadiaego]

Anderson does seem to have been bisexual, if for bisexual we're saying 'obsessively in love with people without ever actually doing anything sensible about it'. The ballerina was one, but there were others.

[(Anonymous)]

Disney doesn't only have a fanatical following in America. Check out Japan, I think they are more hardcore about Disney than even the US.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. Tokyo Disney and Tokyo Disneysea are not owned by Disney. Another company licenses the rights.

Bla bla insert Kingdom Hearts mention here blah.

[(Anonymous)]

Y'know, even if it's rewrit to hell and back, if the execution of it is good...I don't see the issue.

It's like people frothing at the mouth because a movie changed details from a book. I mean, sure, some movies do that and are bad movies, or the changes themselves are bad. But sometimes it makes for a good movie, and a well-told story.

I dunno, I just stopped caring about whether or not things were accurate and more about whether or not they're good.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I never expect the movie version of ANYTHING to be exactly the same as the original book, because 99% of the time that simply isn't possible. Things have to be changed in adaptation to make it work for a different medium.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah...except those "original stories" (particularly the fairytales) are not so much "original" as "first version to get popular". You mention "Frozen", but even some Anderson's works were retellings.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, The Snow Queen was way more important to me as a child than anything Disney, and when I heard that Disney was making a Snow Queen movie, I was worried. But when I saw Frozen I loved it and it didn't bother me. They changed so much that it was just a new story with some literary allusions. Mileages vary, I guess.

(Part of me hates with a burning what they did to Hunchback of Notre Dame. And part of me shrugs and says, "It's not the worst fixfic I've seen.")

[elialshadowpine]

*scratches head*

I'm not really sure where you get USA = no fairy tales. I certainly loved fairy tales growing up, and not just Disney. I remember watching Shelly Duval's Faerie Tale Theatre, and various other animated and live adaptations of fairy tales, and read various fictional adaptations, that were often more faithful to the original stories than Disney.

At the same time, I also loved Disney movies, and often, seeing them would make me want to find out more about the stories they were based on.