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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-01-25 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There you go. You never watched any Disney movies of course you would not understand the magic. I expect there is some kind of childhood thing that was magical to you.

The Lion King is the most magical to be though. ;)

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-01-25 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I sort of agree. (I mean, I agree, but I do not consider myself qualified to venture an actual strong opinion on the matter. There are a plenty of Disney works I have never seen; maybe I'm missing out on some amazing writing or awesomesauce characters).

As a child, I watched nothing made by Disney; none of my current favourites among children's and/or animated films of any kind were produced by them; and I do find the styles and techniques they have used for the last two decades very annoying.
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[personal profile] sarastark 2014-01-25 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I was into Star Wars and Indiana Jones as a kid instead of Disney. I don't feel that my childhood was any less magical.

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-01-25 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually like Disney a lot better as an adult than I did as a kid. I don't think it's a nostalgia thing for me. But I adore animation in general, again, more so now than when I was little, so that probably has a lot to do with it.

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[personal profile] morieris 2014-01-25 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of feel the same way. I looked at a scattering of Disney movies as a child, and I watch more of them as an adult, but the people who treat it as their lifeblood as adults...well, you do you. Have that disney wedding, defend the company against warranted criticism, pretend that the Renaissance is the greatest era of anything ever.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. Honestly, I don't really have much fondness for Disney films, and I did watch most of them as a kid. I can appreciate the quality of the animation but that doesn't mean I enjoy watching them. And every childhood is different and that's okay.

The one Disney thing that I really do have a lot of fondness for is Disneyland. And that's not really childhood nostalgia, I just really love Disneyland. It's so nice.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The first time I watched any Disney movies I was 13 and I loved some of them, still do, but I don't care or haven't seen many others... and even if I had never seen those I love, I don't feel like I would have missed anything that important, really.
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[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-01-25 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't get the whole fanatical devotion to Disney either. Some of their movies are cute, but that's relatively about it I feel about about Disney as a whole. And I watched quite a few Disney movies growing up, so it's not like I 'missed out'. And I like animation and kid's stuff too.

Like just try bringing up the fact that Disney movies rely on rigid gender roles and racist tropes in a discussion, and you will have a whole hoard of people on your back, screaming at you that Disney movies are feminist. FEMINIST.
No one ever said Disney was sexist and racist, but GOD, they're not perfect either.

Just, god. Disney. If someone wants to explain it to me, go ahead.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Disney's rewrites usually shit on the original stories they are (mis)using, and that really irks me. (Glaring at you here, Frozen.) But I have learned that everything Disney is sacred for the USA-born (from a lack of traditional American fairytales perhaps?), so un-anonymously I shut my mouth. But it is hard sometimes.

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[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-01-25 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess because Disney managed to worm their way into practically every household, it boggles some peoples' minds when they meet someone who didn't grow up with it. I have a friend who watched maybe one Disney movie as a kid and she gets that a lot too.
I think a lot of it is due to nostalgia, including for me. I watched Disney movies over and over as a kid. But my main love for Disney is for their animation and most of their songs. Their storytelling is hit or miss. But even now I can still feel the "magic" when I sit down and watch a movie and relive that childish excitement of seeing drawings come to life (I even snuck around my campus' animation building to get a brief glimpse of students working).
That being said, I also think that Dreamworks' 2D movies were visually better executed but don't tell the hardcore Disney fans on tumbr. >___>
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[personal profile] neonlovechicken 2014-01-25 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've watched Disney movies, but my mum never let me watch Japanese anime (and because of this I still would thank her, 'cause I didn't have to grow up with Dragon ball like EVERYONE and instead selected anime I wanted to watch when I grew up), and also I think non-Disney movies like, say, Watership Down and Fievel and the the Neverending Story are the ones that left more of a mark. I don't know, even as a kid most Disney movies never left quite a mark (apart from The Lion King). Also, I always hated the songs.
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[personal profile] hands4healing 2014-01-25 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Having grown up with the live-action Disney films as well as the animated films, I didn't find all that much 'magic' about them. That being said, I was a kid during the Don Bluth era, and while Robin Hood is still one of my favorite Disney movies, when I look at it, I see scritchy art styles that seem more 'cartoony' to me than the earlier movies (and the Renaissance movies).

My absolute favorite movie from Disney is Lilo and Stitch, and I wish that Disney hadn't decided that all animation needed to be Pixar/computer animated stuff, because I miss drawn art cartoons. -_-

I don't miss many of the live-action Disney movies, though. Except the original Escape to Witch Mountain and Return from Witch Mountain. Just loved those movies.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I was already 10 years old when The Little Mermaid came out, so I didn't have a Magical Disney Childhood either. The closest I got was Tron and "old" stuff like Mary Poppins (I saw most of the older animated movies, too, but I found it extremely hard to identify with them). There were other things that were magical though, like Star Trek.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Disney nabbed a successful plot from Shakespeare, acted it out with (fucking unbelievable) kittens and slathered it with Elton at his soppiest. A tested recipe for success (see "Internetz"). And they will do it again and again and again...

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched quite a few in my day and don't get all nostalgic about them, either. Disney is one of those things that was good for childhood, but I'm not into it as an adult.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
There's someone who understands this!

I did not grow up with Disney, so I never feel nostalgic while watching the movies. A lot of my friends born and raised in USA get really shocked when I say I don't like Lion King (apparently it's the most amazing Disney movie ever). It's also sort of upsetting when I see many posts like "you never had a childhood if you don't love Disney." No, I had a childhood, but a different kind with cricket matches, bug collecting and Tintin. Must I be judged for that?
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-01-25 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, you understand. It's the magic of childhood.

You can experience the same thing with whatever you liked/watched as a child. So you're not losing out.

...yay.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
My childhood took place primarily in the "Disney Renaissance" (late 80s, 90s) so I grew up loving movies like Lion King, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, etc. I do think they are awesome, with the exception of maybe Frozen, I haven't really liked anything they've done more recently (not a Pixar fan at all). But there are other awesome things out there, and I find Disney followings to be ... strange. I mean, fan over whatever you like, but seeing an adult with like, Disney gear or whatever weirds me out a little. I realize this is hugely hypocritical of me to say. lol

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Different strokes and all that. Disney was the shitty animation studio when I was a kid and most of my contemporaries still aren't huge Disney fans.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get it either. I saw some Disney movies as a child, but never had a particularly strong attachment or feelings about them. Other movies and TV shows interested me a hell of a lot more than Disney stuff.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I sort of actively hated Disney as a kid. All the other kids got to watch and I didn't! :( Now I just sort of don't care. If a movie interests me, I'll watch it. But I'm just too old to enjoy a lot of it now.
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More like nostalgia and universality.

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-01-26 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of the go-to movie studio for kids' movies, so it's not just about households - nearly every daycare will play a Disney movie because from the rating and conservative standpoints, it's rather unlikely parents will raise any serious objections to them. Disney merch and movies dominate children's TV experiences, toy stores, movie sections, all of it.

Obviously, this doesn't affect everyone, but most people have seen at least a few Disney movies, and they are so widely seen that they are easy pop-culture references to make, ones that most people will understand whether they've seen the movies or not. (The fact that 'everyone has seen them' is also what makes it even more surprising/weird, for Americans at least, when someone hasn't seen them).
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-01-26 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I saw Snow White (obviously a re-run) at the theatre when i was a kid. Saw other ones on TV when 'The Wonderful World of Disney' would air them - Bedknobs and Broomsticks, Mary Poppins, things like that.

And yes, we loved them and they were fun, but...National Geographic was magical, too, as was The Wizard of Oz and Star Trek and My Fair Lady and Christmas. So, you know....

Disney /= the only magic in a childhood. Don't let the clueless get you down, OP.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
They teach good lessons.

Yeah, yeah, all the adults (keyword: ADULTS, obviously full of issues they want to project onto others) will come at me like "OH EM GEE THEY TEACH YOU WOMEN NEED MEN AND TO BE FEMININE AND DOCILE HARDY HAR RACIST SEXIST BLAGHARGH" but growing up, that is never what I got out of any of those movies. I never sat there thinking "I see! No one will love me unless I am beautiful and skinny!". The lessons they teach, which many adults no longer see, are about kindness and acceptance. When I watch Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, Aladdin, Mulan--those are all stories about accepting people for who they are, being kind to others, and being true to yourself. Those are lessons that many people forget as they grow up, and they are values that I still think are very important. I also still believe Disney is doing a good job at conveying those messages today--Enchanted, Princess and the Frog, Brave (my "recent" favorite), Frozen, all about the bonds between people and learning to be true to your heart.

Are they perfect? Obviously not. I am totally in support of more diversity. Bring in princesses from all countries! All sizes! All everything! But I don't like how people act like they need to crap all over older movies at the same time. There's enough room for everyone, people. Chill out.

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There's a lot more to Disney than just animated movies.

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