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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-28 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2583 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2583 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Then it's not you those people are complaining about. It's the people who look at OOC stuff and go omgsquee for reals! that's totes IC! and there are a whole, whole lot of them
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[personal profile] siofrabunnies 2014-01-29 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
There's a time and place for everything. I love crack and ooc-cutesy/grimdark/whatever AUs and fanart just as much as I love long, drawn-out ic character studies. I don't like to take everything super serious all the time. It gets boring

Some people really have trouble grasping the idea that other people do fandom differently from them.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I feel dumb for saying this, but I actually went "awww poor baby!" out loud at that fanart.

/dweeb

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, are you implying that this fanart is NOT like canon? Because apart from the literal tears, this is precisely the situation in canon. ;)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between characters that are OOC because the author turned their canon traits up to eleven, and characters that are OOC because the author gave them an entirely different set of traits that don't seem to have anything to do with what's seen in canon. I sometimes like it when characters are exaggerated for the sake of humor. I don't like it when characters are completely unrecognizable as themselves.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
You basically perfectly worded how I feel about this as well.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
This is how I feel about it too:

...this is OOC?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Because Holmes pretty much does exactly this, and Watson thinks exactly this, at the beginning of The Sign of Four.

Re: ...this is OOC?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't recall Watson bursting into tears when Holmes insulted his writing.

Unless he did, but was embarrassed and therefore left that part out of his stories...<_<

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Poor baby! No wonder he went off and got married to someone who actually appreciated him right after that scene. Suck on that, meanieface Holmes!

*ahem* what were you saying about the pleasure of exaggeration again? ;)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
The funny thing is that this dialogue is almost verbatim from the actual books. ^_^

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not ... not exactly. From The Adventure of the Copper Beeches:

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"To the man who loves art for its own sake," remarked Sherlock Holmes, tossing aside the advertisement sheet of the Daily Telegraph, "it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived. It is pleasant to me to observe, Watson, that you have so far grasped this truth that in these little records of our cases which you have been good enough to draw up, and, I am bound to say, occasionally to embellish, you have given prominence not so much to the many causes celebres and sensational trials in which I have figured but rather to those incidents which may have been trivial in themselves, but which have given room for those faculties of deduction and of logical synthesis which I have made my special province."

"And yet," said I, smiling, "I cannot quite hold myself absolved from the charge of sensationalism which has been urged against my records."

"You have erred, perhaps," he observed, taking up a glowing cinder with the tongs and lighting with it the long cherry-wood pipe which was wont to replace his clay when he was in a disputatious rather than a meditative mood --"you have erred perhaps in attempting to put color and life into each of your statements instead of confining yourself to the task of placing upon record that severe reasoning from cause to effect which is really the only notable feature about the thing."

"It seems to me that I have done you full justice in the matter," I remarked with some coldness, for I was repelled by the egotism which I had more than once observed to be a strong factor in my friend's singular character.

"No, it is not selfishness or conceit," said he, answering, as was his wont, my thoughts rather than my words. "If I claim full justice for my art, it is because it is an impersonal thing -- a thing beyond myself. Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell. You have degraded what should have been a course of lectures into a series of tales."


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So more cold anger than tears, really.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I meant from The Sign of Four. Although he doesn't cry there either. More like pout a little:

“I glanced over it,” said he. “Honestly, I cannot congratulate you upon it. Detection is, or ought to be, an exact science and should be treated in the same cold and unemotional manner. You have attempted to tinge it with romanticism, which produces much the same effect as if you worked a love-story or an elopement into the fifth proposition of Euclid.”

“But the romance was there,” I remonstrated. “I could not tamper with the facts.”

“Some facts should be suppressed, or, at least, a just sense of proportion should be observed in treating them. The only point in the case which deserved mention was the curious analytical reasoning from effects to causes, by which I succeeded in unravelling it.”

I was annoyed at this criticism of a work which had been specially designed to please him. I confess, too, that I was irritated by the egotism which seemed to demand that every line of my pamphlet should be devoted to his own special doings. More than once during the years that I had lived with him in Baker Street I had observed that a small vanity underlay my companion’s quiet and didactic manner.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
DA

"small" vanity ahahahahahaha Watson I don't know if you're being too kind or just sarcastic, but I love it either way.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
I always forget how enjoyably sarcastic Holmes is in the original. I watch Sherlock and it's dialed up to 11 so that I forget it's actually canon.

(Also going awwww for Watson. His writing was 'specially designed to please' Holmes.)
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-01-29 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I pretty much agree with you OP. I read a lot of wildly OOC fic (mostly in Harry potter) and some of it is the kind where the writer clearly knows it's OOC and is doing it on purpose and some of it is the kind where the writer truly does think Harry does Jesus better than Jesus and Molly's in league with voldemort.

As a writer I strive for canonicity and IC characters and those are the stories I end up loving most as a reader. But those OOC stories just do something for me in a way the others don't. They're often melodramatic and angst focused in a way that scratches my id. And some of them have really interesting plots and world building almost like the author blew their wad on that and had nothing left over for characterization.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like OOC fic but OOC art is sometimes funny.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-29 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
I have nothing to say except that this fanart gives me unholy glee the likes of which I haven't experienced for several days. I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT (but especially how even Watson's tiny chibi shoes look heartbroken.)

I think I just proved your point. ;)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-30 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this comment and want more art just like this to plaster all over everything.