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Tell me I'm not insane that "creep" is used far more to describe people who aren't socially charasmatic, masculine, or otherwise part of the other through being gay, having social learning difficulties, being autistic, ugly etc.

You never seen handsome or traditionally masculine guys being called creeps to anything like the same extent for doing the exact same thing. That doesn't mean it isn't a term we should use, but that we should be aware of what may be influncing our opinions.

I'd call this stupid but that'd be a slur apparently.

You never seen handsome or traditionally masculine guys being called creeps to anything like the same extent for doing the exact same thing

May I direct you to

Edited 2014-01-29 01:05 (UTC)

and when I can Jay Z a thug that's okay because this one time a white guy was totes called a thug teh same!

When can I Jay Z a thug too? Sounds like a party.

Off-topic, but wow, that guy has the most punchable face I've ever seen.

He's not chris croker.

Creep shaming isn't a thing, anon.

But no it is because a girl they liked called them a creep it's a thing okay

Maybe they should stop acting creepy. Problem solved. Seriously, I've seen so many guys whine about this and it turns out they're usually being creepy. Doing anything from invading personal space to harassing.

Chard was being sarcastic.

Re: Creep shaming

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-29 01:37 (UTC) - Expand

people who aren't socially charasmatic, masculine, or otherwise part of the other through being gay, having social learning difficulties, being autistic, ugly etc.

Maybe those people are more likely to creep other people out? Not saying the reaction is defensible, but in particular someone who has social inadequacies or is especially awkward really is probably more likely to be perceived as creepy. "Creepy" is just another way of saying "acts (or even looks) in a way that I'm not comfortable with."

I think what they're trying to say is that people sometimes seem more creeped out by people behaving in harmless but typical-of-people-with-mental-or-psych-disabilities ways than by people who are actually violating boundaries or otherwise doing harm.

I don't know how often that actually happens, but I can see how someone would find it objectionable.

haha, if this was inspired by my thread above... i call my friend a creep because he's a passive-aggressive borderline cyberstalker who openly claims to have pressured his (now ex) boyfriend into sex. it has nothing to do with him being gay. (i am also gay, for the record.)

also i think plenty of charismatic, traditionally masculine straight men are creeps.

Naw man it's all about behavior and attitudes. I call traditionally masculine handsome guys creeps a lot, if they're being creeps. I don't know about your reality vs online or whatever, but for sure it's used in my world for behavior not looks.

Are you perhaps someone who has been called a creep and now trying to find other excuses for the label outside of your creepy behavior?

Are you perhaps someone who has been called a creep and now trying to find other excuses for the label outside of your creepy behavior?

That was my immediate assumption.

hah

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no, anon. just no. I've met plenty of "conventionally attractive" guys in my time who were creeps, just as I've met plenty of unattractive guys who were equally as awful.

getting called a creep isn't a social slur in the same way "faggot" or "slut" is. those come with a whole host of moral assumptions & historical baggage, whereas calling someone a "creep" is solely about how that person's behavior is being perceived. it's not about that person's worth as a human being.

So I'm gonna assume you're a creep.

You get called a creepy for exhibiting creepy behaviour, be that through your outfit choices, your actions, epic social behaviour failure or just giving off that creepy vibe.

Looks don't have much to do with it.

See also women being called bitches.

Gender don't have much to do with it.

No, men or women can be creeps or creepy. Bitch is a completely gendered insult.

Unless we just happen to live in different cultures or something. Which could be.

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-29 03:37 (UTC) - Expand

Hahahaha... "masculine" guys aren't called creeps?

Like half of the online dating mockery is about guys sending unsolicited dick pics. Or doing the "I'm gonna destroy your pussy!" bullshit. I'd say those are on the "masculine" end of behavior, no?

And for the record, sending unsolicited dick pics? Pretty much always creepy.

You're not insane, but you might've had a little too much MRA Kool-Aid. Or you're trolling, not sure which.

In case you were serious: The whole "you wouldn't think I'm creepy if I were Brad Pitt!" argument is an old MRA clichè. People mock it because it's not true; it's just something creepy dudes like to say because it shuffles the blame onto someone else (usually a woman) for being shallow instead of taking responsibility for their poor behavior.

And yes, you do see "handsome or traditionally masculine guys" being called creeps. Because being a creeper is about behavior, not appearance.

I "never seen" the word creep being applied to people who aren't actually being creepy.

Somewhat relatedly, I'm still flabbergasted that "creep shaming" is a word that some people use unironically. As though it's a bad thing to let people know that their unacceptable behavior is unacceptable. I hereby propose that "creep shaming" be a new meme, a Minecraft-based parody of Dog Shaming, instead of a term that instantly lets me know the user is a whiny douchebagel.