[ SECRET POST #2585 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Monster High]


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03.
[Bryan Fuller, John Green]


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04.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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05.
[Pretty Little Liars]


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06.
[Breaking Bad]


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07.
[Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey]


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08.
[Reign]


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09.
[Leviathan: the last day of the decade]


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10.
[Sherlock Holmes]


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[Steam]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 017 secrets from Secret Submission Post #369.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/vQ3AJTy.jpg
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe people in the space-future realized this could potentially be a problem and put limits on how much time you can spend in the Holodeck?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but how effective is that against addiction? The U.S. has laws about the amount of heroin you can legally buy-- none! That doesn't stop people from using it or becoming addicted, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much this -- I always figured there was a safeguard on how long a single session in the holodeck could last (perhaps it might automatically shut off when reached if not terminated before) and that you could only do an x amount of sessions a day or have to wait an x amount of hours between sessions.

[elaminator]

You're probably right, it would be dangerous to not have limits on this sort of equipment. No one wants a Lifelight type situation...

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking fannishly, there is every possibility that a certain portion of the population ARE addicted to holonovels or holo-usage...but what we see on-screen are only Star Fleet personnel, who are supposed to be really stable people (read that as non-addictive personalities) and not susceptible to such things.

[(Anonymous)]

*coughcoughREGINALDBARKLEYcoughcough*

[(Anonymous)]

I never really got how Starfleet personnel were really so evolved. I'd wager people there love escapism just as much as people now.

[intrigueing]

I think in the 24th century, people have lives good enough that they usually don't have a huge demand for escapism -- it's probably just television-level escapism. Plus, holodeck technology is apparently very new in early TNG -- it would make sense for it to be something developed for Starfleet officers to cut down on shore leave. The Federation doesn't have a market-based economy, after all.

[(Anonymous)]

Is it really described as new in TNG? Because it was around in some form in the Animated Series.

[(Anonymous)]

We know there's at least two people on the Enterprise-D who use the Holodeck in unhealthy ways because they're unsatisfied with their lives (Barclay and Geordi), and those are people who are traveling around the galaxy doing crazy shit all their time.

[(Anonymous)]

Well 'Holodeck Addiction' seemed to be a existent diagnosed condition when they realized Barclay had it in 'Hollow Pursuits', so I presume it's not uncommon--but I think personalities with that predilection, like personalities with claustrophobia or xenophobia, would be weeded out in the selection process of people assigned to starships on long-term missions. There's probably a lot more holo-addiction in the civilian population, but to balance that out there's probably less free 24-hour holodeck access as a civilian.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the focus of the show is on relatively ambitious career-driven Starfleet personnel who have achieved a level of success and haven't happened to fall to that addiction. There probably are plenty of others who have issues, but they aren't senior officers so we never see them.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep.

[cloud_riven]

This makes me think of that Community season where Abed and Troy have the imagination room thing that looks just like the Holodeck, and Abed spends too much time in it that he can't "escape" it when he comes back out.

That is actually a good question.

[nyxelestia]

Whenever I've seen something like this in most other sci-fi works (other holodecks, other ways of living in a fantasy world, multi-sensory libraries, etc.) there's always some mention of either time-limits, some other kind of limit on the extent of the technology itself, or people have gotten addicted to them and it's a huge problem.

The only complete series I've seen is Voyager. How did the Star Trek verse as a whole handle this?

Re: That is actually a good question.

[ryttu3k]

The best episode to look at for holodeck addiction (and general... delusions of grandeur) is a TNG one, here. By the time you actually see him in Voyager, he's... way more well-adjusted, heh.

Not sure how it was handled in DS9, since I haven't seen that one, unfortunately.

[(Anonymous)]

On Deep Space Nine, the only holographic technology is owned by Quark who uses it as a selling point, so limits are imposed by his need to make a profit on it.

The Next Generation has a case of Holoaddiction, Barclay, but there's no sign of any time limits. Though on the Enterprise, they take turning up to shifts very seriously and the technology goes haywire enough that I doubt too many are comfy staying in there for too long (though that's headcanon).

Enterprise has an alien species who can't make people in there. And Star Trek doesn't have it really.

[anonymouslyyours]

How do we know we aren't watching all the Captains play their own version of a popular series of holonovels?

[(Anonymous)]

BEST ANSWER.

[riddian]

First off, I would like to express my continuing appreciation for all the TNG secrets we've been having lately. Thank you to all OPs for these lovely secrets. :D

As to this particular secret... I always thought that Barclay showed pretty clearly that some people can and do get addicted to holodecks. Starfleet personnel have too many duties and responsibilities to go overboard on that kind of thing, but I bet it's a regular thing in the civilian population. I've always kind of wanted fic about someone who's been in a holodeck so long they've forgotten it's just a simulation, and then they figure out something is wrong and their whole world is an illusion. Or something. There's just tons of fic possibilities there.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe the show as we see it is a holodeck projection already and we are just seeing 'dream within a dream' type scenarios...

I feel like a lot of the pitfalls were addressed.

[(Anonymous)]

On The Next Generation, there was Barclay, Riker falling for Minuet, smarter-than-Data Moriarty.

On Deep Space Nine, most of the crew’s patterns being put into Bashir’s Bondesque holonovel.

On Voyager, there was B’Elanna disengaging the safety protocols and doing dangerous programs, the saboteur for the Starfleet/Maquis holonovel/training exercise/game, the Beowulf debacle with the doctor falling for a character, The doctor’s holofamily and any of the myriad of holo issues with the doctor, the photonic aliens thinking Captain Proton was real, the Hirogen using the holodecks as killing fields.

[(Anonymous)]

Hells yes!

[(Anonymous)]

everybody's perfect in the future and they don't need money either

...sarcastic answer :)