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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-02 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2588 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, humor this lesbian.

Why do you see her as lesbian or bi?

Because honestly, the only response I have gotten, and I shit you not is, "Well, she has no male love interest."

But no, seriously, think about WHY you read her as such. When I actually get people to think about it, it's not very often been, "Well, I don't think she has to be, but it'd be neat to have this awesome woman be a lesbian on top of that AND be a rocking queen." Oftentimes it IS an unconscious, "But she shows no interest in MEN."

See: Merida.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
I hear people who headcanon her as bi or lesbian do so because Let it Go could be taken as a coming out song. Tbh, a lot of the Elsa is gay stuff comes off as fetishizing to me.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. As a queer person myself, I find it more than a little creepy and fetishizing that so many people jumped on "Let It Go" and decided that it's TOTALLY a coming out song instead of, you know, meaning what it actually means in the context of the story? If anything I'd say it's far more likely to be a metaphor for social anxiety than anything else, but I think it's silly to treat a Disney movie as a great big metaphor for anything.

It's Disney. It's a movie that's aimed at kids, it's not meant to be some sort of deep social commentary. Sometimes things really are exactly as they appear on the surface.
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[personal profile] theboundqueen 2014-02-04 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I know for me at least, it has a A LOT to do with the voice actor. Idina Menzel played Maureen in the original RENT soundtrack, and Maureen was a lesbian. So, especially for that song where she's really belting it out and you couldn't mistake her voice if you tried... well, I started reading her as a lesbian because of it.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
people reading elsa as gay has nothing to do with the lack of men in her life and everything to do with the fact that she was living in a "closet" for most of her life and the entire story can serve as a giant allegory for either hiding sexuality or hiding mental illness/disability but ultimately embracing who you are

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Before learning about the concept of asexuality, I spent some time worrying that I was a lesbian.

Which isn't to suggest that no love interest = ace, just that people's minds well might work that day. I agree with everything you said.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet if she had a male love interest people in the movie not as many people would see her as gay. As the other person said though people decided Ice powers were actually a metaphor for being gay and not just a stand in for ANYTHING that causes anxiety.

I find it more easy to relate to regular ole social anxiety because she runs away, locks herself in a different prison and says she's fine. Slap a computer in there and she's an internet shut-in.