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⌈ Secret Post #2590 ⌋

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

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[Don't Hug Me I'm Scared]

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[Cloud Atlas]

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[Hannibal]

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[Goonies]

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[Gwilym Lee]

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[Mass Effect]

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[Sherlock]

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[Sleepy Hollow]

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[Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith]

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[Sherlock]

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[Being Human UK]

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[Craig Ferguson]

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[Christina Ricci]

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[High School Musical]

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[Blue Exorcist]

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[Frozen, Tangled]

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[Amanda Palmer, Emilie Autumn]

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How canon MY SHIP IS!!!!! Destiel and Johnlock in particular.

How so many women in SPN die (though I saw an analysis that showed MANY more men die in the show).

I hear you on SPN. "But but but, female characters shouldn't get killed because the HISTORY OF WOMEN IN HISTORY!!!!" grates my cheese. Mainly because it usually runs in tandem with the idea that they want it to be a show full of ladies and are stuck with a show full of dudes.

Not necessarily. You can still be critical of how the show treats its female characters and not want it to be full of ladies. There's legitimate complaints to be made. Though I will admit I'm still bitter about Jo and Ellen. They didn't need to die.

Like proportionally or by the numbers?

Here ya go! This is the post it is from. http://spn-heavymeta.livejournal.com/425753.html

Thanks!

eta: Admittedly I'm in no position to be debating math but it doesn't seem like that post addresses it proportionally, the author's note says as much? Plus they say
"But if the numbers tell us anything it’s that, across the board, there are more men on this set than women." ... "So six men, in the scheme of things, don’t really make a blip in the gender ratio we see. Six women, on the other hand? The show’s become a sausage fest."

If more men die but are so better represented as to still outnumber women greatly, deaths included, then isn't it still kind of a valid complaint that women are more likely to get the axe?

Edited 2014-02-05 01:22 (UTC)

Yeah, the problem isn't really that women die. It's that every character besides Sam, Dean, and Cas dies so it's not even interesting anymore. Like, I didn't even give a shit when Kevin died because I just knew it was inevitable. I think it's a sign of bad writing to just dispose of every plot relevant character that aids Sam, Dean, and Cas for the sake of "drama."

But I guess the writers think we just want to continue watching Sam and Dean's pissing matches? IDK

Hell, they tried it with Cas but the outcry was too huge. TBH, he is the only reason I still watch the show.

Yeah, thank God for Castiel being the breakout character.

I have to admit that I used to be a "Dean Girl" or whatever, but I'm in the same boat as you. Sam and Dean's relationship is the same boring recycled shit over and over again so I really don't care. Castiel actually has his own issues which are interesting.

I haven't watched since Jo, Ellen, and Anna met their ends in Season 5, so perhaps it has changed, but for me, it wasn't a numbers game. I was well aware that men and women both died. It was that there were so many fewer women to begin with, so their deaths meant there were pretty much none. I mean, look at the angels. All were men but Anna. Sure, some other angels died later (I think?), but Anna dying was a bigger issue for me because it meant there were no more female angels.

I mean, the show managed to produce an entire episode that had not a single actress credited. That is beyond ridiculous, in my opinion. And if you look at the IMDB credits page, of the top ten actors, 8 are male. If the number of secondary characters helping Dean and Sam were balanced between male and female, then the numbers of deaths being balanced would be fine for me. It was the fact that the male characters tended to stick around and there really weren't female characters to balance it out (partially due to them not being created, partially due to them being killed off) that the female character deaths bothered me so much.

All of this

Not to mention that damn near every female character of significance was killed off just to give the boys a reason to angst. That's why it bugs me.

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