[ SECRET POST #2590 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2590 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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03.
[Don't Hug Me I'm Scared]


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04.
[Cloud Atlas]


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05.
[Hannibal]


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[Goonies]


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07.
[Gwilym Lee]


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08.
[Mass Effect]


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[Sherlock]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith]


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[Sherlock]


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[Being Human UK]


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14.
[Craig Ferguson]


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15.
[Christina Ricci]


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[High School Musical]


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17.
[Blue Exorcist]


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18.
[Frozen, Tangled]


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[Amanda Palmer, Emilie Autumn]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 065 secrets from Secret Submission Post #370.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

you know that's a really good point I hadn't considered: How the racefail impacts shipping. I mean now that I think about it, I wonder how she was able to kiss that man without throwing up all over him. It would be like a black girl being forced to kiss a black and white minstrel. I think I wouldn't be able to live with myself once that movie cam out if I were her.

[lynx]

Please repeat after me:

"Not everyone construes race as 'Murica."

[(Anonymous)]

I can repeat it, but I think I'd like you to explain it first.

[lynx]

You did a comparation with minstrelsy, which is pretty much an USA/Western Europe only thing. Actually, the only reason I know of this at all is because everyone kept referencing Black/Yellow/Redfacing. It's not a cultural or historical mark here, and we're not so far away from you.

Latin Americans experience race in a different way than the white westerners, and I know for a fact East Asians do so as well. The idea of "White Privilege", for example, is a western concept. Just look onto how foreigners, no matter the color, are percieved in Japan.

Admittedly, I do not know a lot about Korea, but it'd be safer to give them the benefit of doubt as well.

[(Anonymous)]

None of that means yellowface or blackface is ok, tho. so I don't see what point your trying to argue.

[lynx]

I'm not saying it's ok. I'm just arguing your direct comparation with minstrelsy, which you used to add how Donna Bae should have been disgusted. Maybe she wasn't? Different values, mate.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, I hope you know that mistrelsy was the first type of media that America managed to spread around the WORLD, not just in Europe. Hence why a lot of countries have anti-Black attitudes against Black people even if the Black population is an extremely low number. And modern Western media isn't much better due to stererotyping that were mostly created by mistrelsy (and it's doubly worse that Western countries don't internationally distribute movies with a huge Black casts, which are usually movies that buck the stereotypes).

Plus it's pointless saying this is a Western-centered racism when the movie is produced and directed mostly by Americans and backed by an American studio and uses a mostly American cast. It's going to reflect American attitude towards race.

[lynx]

... By all means, do own up on the issue of the Transatlantic Slave Trade and the fallout that continues until today, it's the right thing to do. But you didn't invent racism against black people, nor were the fist to spread it. o_o

Again, the only thing I was trying to explain here was that while yellowfacing (and any kind of minstrelsy-related performance) is racist due to the origins of the practice and its historical context; we cannot make a western-based judgement on what a Korean actress like Donna Bae might have felt or not. It's an interesting question I'd like to see adressed, but the comparation is lacking when applied to an East Asian person who might not know about this, because it's not part of their culture.

(For example: Certainly it's not a part of mine, but I've done my best to read on the issue to educate myself, since I spend so much time in the Anglo-based side of the internet, and Social Issues are an interest of mine. The thing being, I have had to go out of my way to gain an understanding of it, because it's not a part of my life IRL.)

[(Anonymous)]

How about the mere fact that the Asian masks made the actors look like literal monsters? I legit did not know if Hugo Weaving was supposed to be HUMAN.

[(Anonymous)]

YES OMG that legit made me uncomfortable... like in a creeped-out way

[(Anonymous)]

I assumed at first that they were meant to look odd because they were Consumers, and to stress the point of the Fabricants human-ness, they looked more natural.

But then there were just regular Korean Consumers, so nope.