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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-05 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2591 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2591 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Uh well, one just generally fucks with stuff, thinks that a defining characteristic of Judaism is mysticism, made the story of the golem of Prague all about love or someshit, and other general missing the point all over. Then there was the one with kiddush on Chanukah... Tbh I haven't found a decent one yet (that wasn't written by a Jew)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds... slightly better-informed on Judaism than the main character in Borat. Slightly. And I say that as a person whose knowledge of Judaism comes primarily from Jewish friends, Mel Brooks movies, and Michael Chabon novels. So I'm very, very far from an expert, but... damn. I guess there's levels of ignorance I was unfamiliar with.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
They used mysticism as a replacement word for Jew, wasn't it? That's different.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
What.
The fact that the author came up with that in the first place is not a great sign of knowledge on their part. I'd be disinclined to trust their information.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, worst was that shit with the "tattoing"/scarring. I nearly threw my laptop across the room, I was so pissed off.
They basically wanted him to have a sexy scar so they decided that shitting all over the fact that scarification in Judaism is up there with NO NO STOP NO was the best way to go about it. Like, they literally had the character make up some bullshit thing about how this is ~meaningful and he's a bad Jew so whatever.
Why even bother making it a plot point if you're going to shit all over it? The issue of bodily integrity is super meaningful in Judaism because the body is a gift, they could have done something beautiful with it but no, he needs some sexeh scars amirite.
That was so fucking offensive. If you're going to use a culture, why would you ignore everything that's central to it???

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed that story a lot but now that you point it out, I feel a bit sick. That's terrible.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
yeah I don't go making a shitstorm about it either but that fic does some pretty offensive stuff in terms of Judaism.
I mean, what exactly IS so Jewish about him at all? The author doesn't seem to have much of a clue, and is mostly flailing around ruining stuff.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-01 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
OH MAN, so I actually messaged the author about this, as I am a Reformed Jew, and confronted them on the fact they essentially make a character Jewish for cheap plot drama (using a genocide rooted in real history of a social and historically persecuted minority!! the FEELS, right), as well as the tattoo, the "Mystic" bullshit, etc, and BOY did they come up with a response. An ENTIRE TUMBLR POST explaining how they have "Jewish informants" (okay) and are an anthropology student and looked at many wikipedia pages because they know lots of words related to Jewishness!!

Meanwhile, I got told privately by the author that characterizing Levi as Ashkenazi because of his... grey eyes WASN'T racist (again, o-k-a-y), and that I, a JEWISH PERSON, was clearly wrong here and they were right because they Did Their Research. I felt like trash afterwards, it was great. So polite and understanding.

(The tattoo thing DISGUSTS me. Not to mention how in one chapter Hebrew script was described as "blocky yet beautiful" or something *SHUDDERS*)

tl;dr wow I had no idea so many people shared my views on this I'm so glad